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Supreme Court ruling

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Flybee · 17/04/2025 13:24

Presumably my university is not alone in having a transgender policy that states, amongst other Stonewall Speak, that transgender people may use any toilet of their choosing?

Presumably this policy will now have to change?

I've seen that the NHS and other public bodies will be issued with renewed guidance - will the same be done for universities?

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xxuserxx · 19/04/2025 21:27

Screenshots of the tweet and the 4th image, with circles...

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Flybee · 19/04/2025 21:28

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You really don't get it, do you?

Can you really not imagine how a sexual assault survivor might feel knowing that a man might enter a single-sex space?

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RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 21:28

EweSurname · 19/04/2025 21:25

Still confused why you couldn’t see it on the link that’s been posted multiple times

They have spent a good part of the thread reporting a poster for libel to MNHQ, Jo and the uni (or something like the uni) now they have seen the sign and reread the posts and realised they have made a mistake and they can’t back down

IDareSay · 19/04/2025 21:28

EweSurname · 19/04/2025 21:25

Still confused why you couldn’t see it on the link that’s been posted multiple times

Possibly so they could take screenshots of those of us being helpful and brag about how they ‘owned the terfs on mumsnet’ and wasted our time?

Allegedly.

ThisJadeFinch · 19/04/2025 21:29

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Flybee · 19/04/2025 21:30

Hercisback1 · 19/04/2025 20:26

Unwilling to answer the question, interesting. Tells me everything I need to know. I don't think you're genuine and are clearly derailing this thread. Reported as such.

Agree - this person, who I highly doubt is a university employee considering they are all over all threads about the SC ruling, is completely derailing this thread.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/04/2025 21:30

xxuserxx · 19/04/2025 21:27

Screenshots of the tweet and the 4th image, with circles...

The irony of saying "hate will never win" and then including an image of a hangman sign. 🙈🙈

ThisJadeFinch · 19/04/2025 21:30

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/04/2025 21:30

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Oh dear pet. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂That's not what it says is it?

ThisJadeFinch · 19/04/2025 21:32

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RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 21:33

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Gotcha 😳
hahahahahahahahaaaaaa
hahahahahhahahahhaaaaa

good lord are you 12?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/04/2025 21:33

Did I? Where? 😂😂😂😂

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 21:34

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Yes i know you are here

i didnt say you weren’t here

are you struggling to see pictures and read words now?

ThisJadeFinch · 19/04/2025 21:34

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/04/2025 21:35

Nope. Reading comprehension is not your strong point is it?

DrUptonsGardenGnome · 19/04/2025 21:35

I must say I was feeling quite unwell but this has really perked me up.

It puts me in mind of some cutted up pear.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 21:36

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Then why did you say ‘still here’ when I hadnt said you had left?

you might not have meant to quote me

ThisJadeFinch · 19/04/2025 21:36

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DeskJotter · 19/04/2025 21:37

The ruling does not mean that universities will have to change their policies on toilet use. You are mis- and over-interpreting the ruling.

Here is a good explanation of what the ruling does (and doesn't) mean from a former Supreme Court judge:
“That’s the main point, which I think has been misunderstood about this judgment. I think it’s quite important to note that you are allowed to exclude trans women from these facilities. But you are not obliged to do it.
So, for example, the authorities of a sport such as women’s boxing, women’s football, are allowed to limit it to biological women. They were not in breach of the discrimination rules of the [Equality] Act. But the judgment does not mean that the sporting authorities have got to limit women’s boxing or women’s football to biological women.”

It is perfectly fine for our universities to continue our existing trans-inclusionary policies on toilets use.

You can stop frothing at the mouth, now.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lord-sumption-trans-biolgical-woman-supreme-court-b2735828.html

Supreme Court ruling on trans women ‘misunderstood’ says former top judge

Lord Sumption has warned the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling this week is being misinterpreted

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lord-sumption-trans-biolgical-woman-supreme-court-b2735828.html

EweSurname · 19/04/2025 21:37

I think you’ve accidentally included your name in the screenshot @ThisJadeFinch so might be best to delete (and repost without if needed).

Tricky buggers after all, are screenshots!

ThisJadeFinch · 19/04/2025 21:38

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RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 21:39

EweSurname · 19/04/2025 21:37

I think you’ve accidentally included your name in the screenshot @ThisJadeFinch so might be best to delete (and repost without if needed).

Tricky buggers after all, are screenshots!

Oh yes so they have 😀😀😀

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/04/2025 21:39

DeskJotter · 19/04/2025 21:37

The ruling does not mean that universities will have to change their policies on toilet use. You are mis- and over-interpreting the ruling.

Here is a good explanation of what the ruling does (and doesn't) mean from a former Supreme Court judge:
“That’s the main point, which I think has been misunderstood about this judgment. I think it’s quite important to note that you are allowed to exclude trans women from these facilities. But you are not obliged to do it.
So, for example, the authorities of a sport such as women’s boxing, women’s football, are allowed to limit it to biological women. They were not in breach of the discrimination rules of the [Equality] Act. But the judgment does not mean that the sporting authorities have got to limit women’s boxing or women’s football to biological women.”

It is perfectly fine for our universities to continue our existing trans-inclusionary policies on toilets use.

You can stop frothing at the mouth, now.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lord-sumption-trans-biolgical-woman-supreme-court-b2735828.html

Not true. As an employer the 1992 workplace regulations mandate that separate male and female toilets must be provided.

As the ruling makes clear that transwomen are male, the university as an employer would be failing in its legal duty to state that transwomen van use the female facilities.