Kate Moss: crap mother? but the media choose to ignore it.....

[Greythorne]

OK, so Kate moss gets scrutinized for her hair, her weight, her boyfriends, her Top Shop collection, her friendship with that frizzy haired hairdresser blokey, her friendship with Sadie Frost etc etc......

But the one thing no-one ever mentions is that she appears to live the life of a single woman, not a mother to a 7 year old....it's Glasto to gigging with Jamie Hince to sharing joints with Lily Allen to holidays in Ibiza.

Yes, yes, I know, on Fathers' Day she went to visit her ex with her little girl in tow but even then, it was Sadie Frost holding Lila's hand, not Kate.

Is there a media ban or something on discussing how little time she spends with her child?

I just don't get it because Katie Holmes gets slated all the time because her kid is wearing high heels / still drinking milk from a bottle / wearing make-up / whatever......ditto Posh, Katie Price....but at least these mums seem to love and adore their kids and like spending time with them. But they get loads of grief.

Kate: nothing. Nobody talks about her motherly responsibilities.
WHY?

I've always thought it odd you never see photos of her with her DD.

I think there are far worse celeb parents that KM.

Look at sainted Bob Geldof. Yes held up as a paragon of virtue however freely admitted leaving his 3 teenage daughters in a self contained flat. Bob, mate, your daughters are underage and getting pictured out on the town in London's hottest nightclubs. Don't you think a bit of parental care should come into it?

Ditto Liz Hurley. The clothes she dresses that poor child in are bordering on criminal.

Why are you concerned OP??? This threads is making you look like a sad bored KM stalker??

Lots of celebs are sue-happy wrt to pics of their kids - like Jude Law's kids for instance are usually pixellated.

In all those pics of KM there may be a 7 year old just out of shot, and cropped for publication, for all you know.

I am just so worried about all celebrities' kids.

Greythorne - I hear you.

Quite a long time ago Cod asked for examples of poor parenting in the media (think she was doing something at school) and I said KM.

She started dating that babyshambles loser can't remember his name who is a heroin addict long after she had her daughter. That's not a good choice, imo, whether she uses drugs or not.

I agree, I have seen a million pictures of Kate Moss going about her daily business and she never has her daughter with her.

Who knows? She might be a great mother but I kind of suspect she is not and I think you feel the same way as me. You can't know anything about anyone's life, really, but you can build up a picture after years of little clues.

We could be wrong and I hope for her daughter's sake we are.

erm, I'm reasonably sure I HAVE seen some criticism in the media about how little KM sees of her daughter.

Happened about the same time as she was caught doing coke, IIRC.

Basically, when the media don't like her, they'll criticise everything including her parenting skills, when they do like her (which is most of the time), she can do no wrong.

I was under the impression that Kate Moss goes to considerable lengths to keep her DD out of the spotlight - which explains why she is so rarely photographed with her.

at Hully. It is a real concern, isn't it?

You see I'm under the impression that she goes to great lengths to keep her dd out of the media spotlight because she wants to be seen to be carefree and irresponsible. Its all just impressions, really.

Whore Kerry?

Coke head I can believe but whore?

Maybe when she is with her dd she doesn't go out as much, steers clear of the paparazzi as she wants to keep her daughter away from all that.

I can't imagine having a holiday with your friends, going to Glasto, some parties takes up any more time than a 9-5 job does for your average mum. So she may well spend more time with her DD than a working mum does. I have no idea if she's a good mum or not.

I'm trying to think of a mother the press universally agree is a good mother.

I'm struggling, truth be told.

Stripey, she does work on top of the partying, work that no doubt involves a lot of travel and staying away from home!

Maybe she takes the kid with her. I can't believe any job she has will be too taxing, half a day in a photo shoot, couple of hours meeting Phillip Green. She could well have a nanny to look after the kid in those few hours, or sort her work commitments around when the father has the kid.

As I understand it, the OP is not about whether km is a good mother or not - it's how come the press don't focus on whether she is or not, when they focus on every other aspect of her life. And when they ALWAYS attack women on their mothering, whatever they do.

I think it's an interesting question.

One of the things about Anne Boleyn which always interests me, is that no-one ever accused her of being a bad mother. A witch, a whore, a committer of incest, an adulteress - every other mysogynist insult. But never a bad mother. I can only assume that it was because by the standards of her time, she was a conspicuously good one.

Perhaps KM is? We don't know. Do we care? I'm struggling to. I've just realised I find AB's parenting more interesting, but I expect I'm in a minority. As you were....

KM has very good legal protection
She doesn't have a manager
She has a lawyer instead and she jumps on anything in the press
She manages her press very proactively so I wouldn't be suprised if she has something in place with regards her daughter
She is canny in that respect

How often are mothers (working or otherwise) of school children out in public with their DCs anyway? I mean in obvious places where one might get papped, so the Groucho club rather than Waitrose?

its funny I was thinking about celeb Mums last night when I saw shots of Posh strutting across the road holding up one of her boys hands too high (like she always does) wearing a tight yellow designer frock, shades, ccoiffured hair and sky high heels, plus ££££ birkie bag over forearm..

Contrast this with pics of Heidi Klum, who had 4 kids in buggies (plus her Mum in tow so it seemed) shorts, checked shirt, zero make up, flat shoes. ie a normal Mum

Posh is so 'on duty' all the time with regards to her image. I wonder how her boys feel about that, or if they even notice. But one looked like a
Mum and one looked like a designer first, mum second.

And all this is coming from someone who is never knowingly underdressed

I agree with Darrell - am sure KM's daughter's face is always blurred out in photos.

I suspect KM doesn't let her be photographed that much.

Also to be honest - the press would much rather have photos of KM looking drunk or whatever than going to the park with her daughter.

She might do that thing where she tells the photographers where she is - so they take photos of her without her daughter.

And in return they leave her alone at other times.

Kate Moss is an alcoholic and a substance abuser. She leads a pretty precarious life travelling all over the world for her job. She previously continued a relationship with that shiny man in the hat who was a drug user and regularly up in court.

I just assumed that all of the above meant that she did not have residency with the child, that the child's father or Kate's own parents were her primary carers and that Kate had regular, short, supervised contact.

Hence she is never photographed with her and when she is, her friend Sadie, as in your link above, accompanies her (she may not be encouaged to be alone with her daughter).

Such a court-ordered residency situation wherein the child's best interests are at the heart of the decision but when it is a sensitive and delicate situation might also come with a press embargo condition. The press have to respect the embargo and be in contempt.

I never for one moment thought Kate Moss was raising her child, given her background, particularly the continuation of the relationship with a drug user. That would be unacceptable to SS.

"The press have to respect the embargo and be in contempt."

OR be in contempt, I meant.