Colleen Rooney, due in October, plans CS in September to fit in with football season

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What do people think? I have no problem with people planing CSs, but this (assuming she's planning it for 2 or 3 weeks in advance of her due date) seems a bit of a superficial reason. I know babies are OK to come at 37 weeks if they're ready but surely this way there's a high risk of delivering a 'not ready' baby. Aren't CSs usually scheduled for about 39weeks? What do people think about this?

'Perhaps she doesn't want to share intimate details with the public.'

So why go public with this?

My mum had hideous births, too, in fact every female member of her family had and she'd bang on, 'Tell the doctor everyone in your family has CS's.'

I had 3 vaginal deliveries.

My sister had a VBAC.

I did have epidural pain relief for two of them, no regrets about that, but having had major surgery for other things, NO WAY I'd go for it voluntarily.

Haribosmummy, would it be really cheeky to ask you why you had an elective CS? I hate hospitals and while not exactly phobic, I know that one of the reasons I chose HB was because of my need to be in my own home, away from strangers and unfamiliar routines. To me, the thought of anaesthetic, gowns and knives is far more scary than having a baby in my own bed! Everyone has their own fears/issues!

Where has she announced this?

I agree traceybath but why should a woman have to explain her reasons for wanting a CS?

She shouldn't (and generally doesn't) have to explain if she wants a homebirth, so why any other choice???

I appreciate there is the whole 'I'm not paying for it' brigade... And I do have quite a bit of sympathy with that, I suppose, which I why I went private last time and will again, but given the Rooney's are hardly going to be checking in to the local NHS place, what's the bother???

sorry, HM, see you have already said DH worked away

Ok, I'm off.

But before I go, I have one thing to say.

PARP!

Oxocube, no problem at all...

I had an El CS because I wanted DH to be with me and he could only be sure of being there on a Saturday, so we planned the birth for a Saturday morning, so he could stay with me until Monday morning (when he flew back to work)

I went private because I didn't want to have to convince anyone else that this was what was right for me and my baby, and also because I wanted to stay in hospital for a few days (I acutally stayed till the wednesday - it was bliss!!! ) as I would have been alone at home.

You are so right about fears and phobias though - I'd have HATED the thought of being alone and in unchartered territory at home!!!! [eek]

Oh FFS. Of course we can judge! Why would anyone who has never given birth before and has no medical reason want to have a c-section? For convenience? I mean for the love of fucking God! Why? Something is really wrong when women think natural birth is unnatural and inconvenient. These celebs are doolally and not living in the real world.

And again, I stress, I have had two sections (the last one was blissful, actually, although had all the faff of recovery time), yet I still concede that this is not the way nature intended, and it is utterly bizarre that our culture now encourages women to book someone cutting open their womb as a routine procedure. Baffling.

I think that kind of illustrates the point though mrsmattie (only doing bold so you know we're having a discussion LOL), yes she may have been lashed?! But when I was breastfeeding I was lashed on 2 glasses of wine (o the days of being a cheap date). But Charlotte Church, if we are to pit the two against each other, I think are from different backgrounds. Husbands/partners aside. Charlotte Churches parents (much like David Beckham's and Victoria Beckham's parents for example) put a lot into their children's futures. They went to football camp/drama clubs every night, they invested in their children's educations and talents. The Rooney family, appear to me, to have been lucky. David Beckham vs Wayne Rooney. David Beckham wasn't randomly scouted neither was his wife. Wayne Rooney I think was. He family didn't put all their lives into ensuring his success. Charlotte Churches parents invested her talent and made her what she is possibly by being pushy parents. Maybe that's why she had her babies young who knows. I really think that class has nothing to do with it, but education or influence is all.

I personally think its fair enough for her to go public about some stuff but keep other stuff private - don't we all do that to some extent?

But i didn't see her discuss this so am basing my opinion on hearsay.

I do think though that celebs always keep due dates very secretive.

As i said on the other thread about this there's always been a lot of gossip that certain celebs had their electives done at 36 weeks to avoid that last bit of weight gain/risk of stretchmarks. Which obviously i think is pretty crap.

Sorry, Mrsmattie, I disagree.

I had never given birth before and I wanted a C section for no 'medical' reason.

I'm not a celeb, not doolally and I do live in the real world.

We can judge away chequersmate because this is exactly what feeds the Rooney et al money mill. As for the breast feeding thing, I was just agreeing with something someone else had said. And IMO, and FGS that's all it is my opinion, no I don't think it's an at all positive to decide on an elective CS 5 months before your due date unless you have really good reason. For no other reason than CS are quite awful for the mother and apart from anything else why would you want to make the early days any harder than they already are?

Please tell me this is a piss take. Silly girl.

I agree, TheHedgewitch.

I'm not aware of 'sliding scales' of payments (certainly the Portland doesn't offer them) other than for the standard of room you have - and I KNOW my consultant would NEVER have delivered my baby early, regardless of what I'd said (which I didn't, obviously, but YKWIM)

HB, dc2 was born in Switzerland where they wouldn't allow HB. I discharged myself early after 2 days (most women stayed 7!) as I couldn't stand the faff, the explaining why I wanted my baby with me all the time, why I had to justify getting out of bed etc etc. Just shows that one woman's feast is another woman's poison (am sure that is a totally made up idiom but hey .....!)

Haribosmummy why did you feel like that? Not judging just asking.

I like the idea that the Rooneys have some sort of narrow existence, they must have seen all sorts in their lives, prob much better 'educated' about the world and its ways than any of us!

Sorry Mrsmattie I think I cross posted my response to you on my last one to you. FWIW I agree with your post of 20:50.29

But, el CS (privately) aren't really that bad... You can stay in hospital for as long as you like afterwards - private room / bathroom etc., plus there is 24hour care - including a fully equipped nursery... You can even buzz someone to come and change your baby's nappy if you don't feel like doing it (I AM NOT JOKING!!!)

Breastfeeding (IME) isn't as universally applauded as it is in the NHS - I was told (by the Paed) to mix feed DS from birth. In fact, there was only one woman I met who was exclusively BFing and the midwives didn't seem that impressed, TBH!

What do I think ?

Erm nothing. Nada. Zlch.

I genuinely couldn't give a gnats fart

Supergluebum I think you must have me confused with someone else - I didn't mention judging.

I asked which Saturday it was that Wayne Rooney had a fight at a wedding reception and when it was in the news.

I'm not sure about that wonderingwondering. People surround themselves with familiar things for comfort. Holiday with family that kind of thing. I wasn't making the point (I'm pretty sure I wasn't) that "education" is always about what you learn in books. You are already a member of MN for example. There is a wide range of people who post on here and many have made me look differently at the way I think or consider certain things. You can be narrow in your views regardless of class or academic education...

A good CS is far, far, far better than a bad natural birth. I have had both (bad labour and CS, then a VBAC) and I'd go for the CS any day. The recovery isn't that bad, the ONLY bad point I experienced was not being able to drive for 6 wks afterwards.

Sorry chequersmate I think it was actually coleen's family in a fight with Rooney's family at a wedding reception. I am really not an OK magazine buff

I can understand that wonderingwondering having had a terrible first labour with a third degree tear (are you sobbing for me now?), but why subject yourself to something i.e. a tear, CS, episiotimy if you don't have to? I don't think that's the issue to be honest I think it's the fact that this is a "normal girl/woman" deciding the outcome of labour, to either grab headlines or make life easier without any idea/experience first.