Colleen Rooney, due in October, plans CS in September to fit in with football season

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What do people think? I have no problem with people planing CSs, but this (assuming she's planning it for 2 or 3 weeks in advance of her due date) seems a bit of a superficial reason. I know babies are OK to come at 37 weeks if they're ready but surely this way there's a high risk of delivering a 'not ready' baby. Aren't CSs usually scheduled for about 39weeks? What do people think about this?

Yep always comes across... Herbietea I had left and you sucked me back in!!!!!

it wouldn't bother me so much as having a "not ready" baby - but having a baby and an operation at the same time is someting not to be undertaken lightly.

(I say this as a veteran of 2 c/s, my opinions backed up by a surgeon I spoketo today)

I had dinner with the beckhams once... Well, them and Ryan Giggs and teddy sherringham.

Victoria (pre-kids, I have to say) drank alot, ate nothing and went to the bathroom every 20 minutes - though I will say, I do believe this was to create the attention... not because I think she was up to anything in there, IYSWIM.

I no longer move in such hallowed circles having moved away from the bright lights of manchester to dimly lit suburbia!!

I, too, would never darken the door of a harvester

Eek why would you choose to have a c-section? I had one forced upon me - grim grim grim. Having to have an operation, then weeks to recover. Was lucky enough to have a VBAC found the natural birth far preferable.

It's a personal choice, Kerala...

Having something forced upon you is always going to be a grim reality, but for me it would have been equally grim if I'd been forced to give birth naturally.

The point is, whether we like it or not, by the time we get to giving birth (esp. with our first child) we more likely than not have an idea of the birth we want... and if that doesn't happen, it's likely to lead to unhappiness and stress.

But, it's far more likely that a woman will be forced (or feel forced) in a medically led delivery than the other way around (forced into a natural delivery)...

therefore, I think it's wise to consider the fact that a CS MIGHT be required. I'm sure, if it's not been considered, the idea of such a major operation etc., is massively horrid... And I can't see how it's possible to convey the risks etc., when a woman has been labouring (perhaps for many hours?) and is being forced to make a decision quickly (or perhaps isn't given that decision at all)

An El CS is MUCH MUCH different to that.

It was right for me and I stand by that.

"drank alot, ate nothing and went to the bathroom every 20 minutes"

Sounds like she was into cocaine.

The Harvester is the only place we can afford to eat now that I am on SMP.

What is it you don't understand, MrsMattie?

You were asking why a woman who has never given birth before would opt for elective CS. I said possibly because we can learn from others' experiences.

Is it news to you that a lot of first births leave permanent souvenirs with tears, weakened muscles, prolapsed organs, anal fissures, episiotomies etc? If she wants to avoid all that, what exactly is your problem with it?

"we would all have elective sections. So basically, human beings would no longer give birth vaginally. is that healthy or desirable?"

Humanity is not a bee hive but individuals making decisions for ourselves. It is a laughable argument (sorry) that one woman should not have the right to an elective CS because that might somehow lead to all wanting one, which might not be "desirable" for the human race. Seriously, it has not for one moment crossed my mind that I should not have an elective CS because it might somehow be "undesirable" for the human race as a whole

I will also be taking antibiotics immediately after birth this time, rather than wait for an infection to fester like last time. Is routine post-natal AB "healthy" for human race? Probably not. Do I care one bit? No.

I'm not "the human race". I am me.

well in fairness they both want him their when their first child is born and the world cup qualifier is a match he can't really miss as both their careers are dependant on him being a successful footballer and the English national team is a big part of that success.
so in the end,it's her body and her choice so why is anyone else getting annoyed about it?

She probably didn't want an August baby, you know what a scourge they are dinosaur, but that's a whole other thread.

Imo it's their business. In response to oxocubes question, I do know one reason why women choose CS is so that their vagina stays intact.

Not talking from personal experience btw - had vaginal birth.

blimey just disapeared from this thread to find a link saying "due in October, plans CS in September to fit in with football season"

anyone seen this link....

Why do these threads always bloody turn into will she wont see breastfeed I get sick of the you gave your child a bottle you evil mother your child will be ill forever !! Her life her choice

Am totally with MrsMattie on this one (and I've had two cses as well).

It's an airheaded decision when there's no medical need. And I can and will judge because, as someone else said, Colleen makes her millions by selling details of her lifestyle to the public.

Those of you who have genuine phobias of birth etc, I respect your decisions. But I humbly suggest Colleen will do you all a disservice as even more than ever people will consider women wanting elcs to be fluffy WAGS more concerned about their figures/schedules than their babies' health.

Well, I'm firmly with CoteDAzur

it's totally pathetic to herd all women who choose an El CS as more concerned about their figure than the health of their baby. Totally pathetic and pretty bloody offensive too.

I chose an El CS. I am not an airhead, not doolally as has been quoted on this thread and I love and care for my son more than life itself.

I had very good, personal reasons for wanting to know when my son was born. I shouldn't have to justify that and I shouldn't be labeled thick / stupid / vain just because I'm not prepared to pretend I had 'pelvic floor' issues...

I am sure you had excellent reasons for your choice, Harbibo. Most women do. I had excellent reasons myself.

I am saying ELCSes will now be viewed as a WAG lifestyle choice. Victoria Beckham had already put her stamp on them. Women who want ELCSes for valid reasons are even more likely to be categorised as vain and stupid etc than ever before and that helps no one.

Yes, I suppose I see your point, but my feelings on it are:

1. After the baby is born, no one give a flying f**k (excuse the french!) - I don't think I've ever been asked.

1. A woman shouldn't feel scared about admitting what sort of birth she wants (caviat, that it doesn't put the baby at risk - but as I've said previously, I honestly don't think any decent consultant / hospital would seriously put weight management above the health of the baby, and I had DS in the portland, so if it was going to happen, I'm sure it would happen there IYSWIM. All the consultant, midwives, nurses, Paeds - everyone I encountered, was professional, lovely, and had the health of the baby as their number one concern). I was pretty much run out of the NCT classes because the 'leader' didn't like El CSs - yet one reason I was so keen to know when the baby would be born was because I was alone (literally - live hundreds of miles away from family and DH in Russia) and extremely scared of being alone in childbirth - yet the very people who could have offered me support cast me out because I didn't agree with their (IMO) very narrow minded view of childbirth.

1. I think ALL women should be made consider a CS. The chances of requiring an EM CS are reasonable, and I think it must be horrid to be faced with that, when you are tired, emotional, in a lot of pain etc., Again, this whole idea pushed by certain people that 'real mothers' push is a lot of tosh and must make a lot of mothers who have to have CSs feel rather like failures.

I have found, personally, that being a mother has given me the strength to stand up for my convictions and I no longer give a crap if some stranger doesn't like the decisions I made for myself and my child.

Having my DS was, quite honestly, the best, happiest day of my life and I have nothing but good memories of that whole day.

I know, without a shadow of a doubt, I wouldn't have thought that if I'd had to have a natural delivery!!!

Hribos why wouldnt it be the happiest day of your life if he was born naturally is it because your family maybe wouldnt have been there ? I am not picking fault with anyone who has a planned cs its each to there own. I just wondered why ?

Well, my Dh almost certainly wouldn't have been there (and perhaps not for a few days afterwards). my DSDs wouldn't have been there and it was lovely for them to be there to see their brother.

my parents would have probably have waded in once DS was born and taken any sign of vunerability on my part as a sign I couldn't cope / was unhappy etc., etc., and then ranted on about it (as it was, it was several days later, when I was feeling much more in control and confident with DS IYSWIM)

Lots of reasons, but all emotional rather than physical IYSWIM

Hope you dident think I was being nosey its just I had a natural birth with both my children and it was the happiest day of my life as it was with you. I assumed thats what you meant .

I think you are right when you have children you dont care about anyone else's opinion. Good for you.

Haribo makes a good point that all women should consider that they might need an Emergency CS. It is indeed very common. I personally know many women who have had to have emergency CS's. Ds was nearly born CS.

No problem with considering all aspects of childbirth, inc. the possibility of ECS. What I can't understand for the life of me is why anyone would want to put themselves and their babies through major abdominal surgery. In every other area of surgery there has been a move away from highly medicalised interventions, but ECS seem to have become something to aspire to. I think it's the aspirational aspect that is so puzzling to me - private hospitals (supposedly a 'better' service) have a much higher rate of CS's than NHS hospitals, for example - why? It's the idea that money can buy you the best service which = ECS for so many celebs which then filters down into the rest of society.