Colleen Rooney, due in October, plans CS in September to fit in with football season

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What do people think? I have no problem with people planing CSs, but this (assuming she's planning it for 2 or 3 weeks in advance of her due date) seems a bit of a superficial reason. I know babies are OK to come at 37 weeks if they're ready but surely this way there's a high risk of delivering a 'not ready' baby. Aren't CSs usually scheduled for about 39weeks? What do people think about this?

I agree!!!

Information for all, and the right to choose.

Yes that was a bad episiotomy just as there are bad c sections but generally episiotomies are the worst of 2 evils in terms of what is invasive surgery.

I had an episiotomy too btw.

I couldn't help but judge when I heard the "news" but although it seems really superficial to us would we feel the same if her husband worked away (eg on oil rig?). I can't help but feel that if that is her decision then so be it but is it really news that we need to know? Shouldn't we be trying to find the good in her? They area married couple who have taken a lot of rubbish from the press for a long while and now they want a baby - together - good luck to them!

"I cannot understand why any woman would choose to have a section for a first birth. It doesn't make sense."

With all due respect, have you read what I wrote?

I would have wanted a CS with DD (first birth) if I had the facts.

Facts were: (1) she was going to be over 4 kgs (2) she had to come out soon as I had pre-eclampsia (3) big babies have a higher chance of shoulder dystocia (4) induced big babies have significant chance of causing large tears... THEREFORE doctors and midwives all knew that if induced, I would be given a huge episiotomy - to prevent any big tear & shoulder dystocia.

If I knew this, I would have insisted on a CS. For a first birth, would you believe.

Does it make sense now?

fifi - No you didn't have a real episiotomy, if you think it means "slice through thin skin". How many stitches was that - one?

Take a look at the diagram I linked to in earlier post. Episiotomy is a deep cut into flesh, muscle, and even nerve.

Cote - I just wanted to let you know I posted to you here just to sympathise totally with where you are coming from but also to keep it away from these debate threads. Hope that's ok.

Chequers.

Is this a competition to see how bad everybody's birth experience was? Sheesh!

How the hell do you know what kind of epitiotomy I had?

Not competition. Perhaps a bit of an education.

No I dont think its a competition but obviously (from what I can read) most women don't have a very good experience with having babies so I guess from now on we all have to keep our legs crossed and not let those men near us!!!!! LOL (just trying to lighten up the thread a bit)

Its awful that any mother or mother-to-be should go through anything that makes childbirth (however it is done) a terrible experience.

Cote I hope all goes well with your section and I hope it will be ten times better for you than your last heartbreaking experience.
Good luck to you too all having babies I really hope however you decide to have them that it will be memorable for all the right reasons xxx

Thanks but I don't need an education and I do know what an episiotomy is so please don't patronise me.

No, you obviously didn't, saying it was a cut "through thin skin".

What you got may have been a piercing, if it only cut through "thin skin". It wasn't an episiotomy, which invariably cuts through muscle and quite probably through nerve as well.

Think twice about ignorantly belittling people's traumatising experiences a la "it's only a cut through skin, why would anyone fear that" if this feels like "patronising". People living in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones outside and all that.

Thank you, Cazzaben

"Just wondering why some women really fear and don't want episiotomies but would accept a CS?

One is major operation, one is a slice through thin skin. Not the best experience of my life but it healed quicker than a cs scar would have done"

THAT is what I said, nowhere did I say 'its only a cut.....' etc. I was wondering why some women were quite happy to have their bellies cut open but wouldn't contemplate having an episiotomy. SOME episiotomies do go wrong but generally they heal fairly quickly and do not constitute major invasive surgery. That is a medical fact - ask any gynaecologist/obs.

The use of the term 'thin skin' was a bit throwaway but I was trying to cite the differences between the procedures.

I have not belittled anyone's experience. BTW you really don't know what kind of procedure I had so please don't tell me what is was or wasn't.

I had an emergency section for my first. An elective for my second which was horrific, a natural for my third (baby unfortunately had died a couple of weeks prior to birth) and a very emergency section for my fourth (cord prolapse - baby needed resuscitation).

I'd still rather go natural.

Glitter - I am sorry about your 3rd baby

Me too... That's sooo bad... I hope you have come to terms with that xxxxxxxxxxxx

I do judge. Why take on the extra risks for your child like the 20% increased chance of developing diabetes for the sake of career convenience?

My best friend who had 4 kids has a son who developed diabetes at 7. He was her only child born by c-section.

Why would you make your kid 5x more likely to get a life-threatening, horrible permanent condition unless you HAD to?

17 months? wtf?

it wasnt true anyway, didnt she have a natural birth?

did she? I actually never found out, although I remember hearing she'd had the baby.
(Don't understand how this has been resurrected, but quite topical as there is another thread speculating she'll be pregnant again soon)

she had him in November and was 9 days overdue! So I think we can safely assume that, VB or CS, it wasn't an early one!