In the spirit of inclusivity, Aberdeen school describes cards made at Christmas as Winter cards

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Children at this school have been making cards in the run up to Christmas for ages.

Many children still make Christmas cards during this activity and they are free to call them Christmas cards

However, the school announced they would be adopting the phrase "winter cards" to show "value and respect" to different cultures.
The email sent to families said: “To reflect this inclusivity in our communications, we refer to seasonal cards as “winter cards” rather than “Christmas cards”.
“This terminology helps ensure that our language is welcoming and inclusive of all members of our school community.
It added that families were still free to use the phrase Christmas cards if they preferred.

You can imagine the online reaction. The Deputy Headteacher received a threatening phone call

"Unfortunately, following the communications, our deputy head teacher received an abusive and threatening telephone call.

"This was followed by disappointing comments on social media suggesting that Christmas was somehow being removed from our school.
"I want to reassure you that is simply not the case"

We had Winterval in Birmingham. Haven't people learnt? I can imagine it's been done with the best intentions but I bet they didn't consult with the parents before doing this. It has come at the worst possible time for relations with other communities and it's spreading like wildfire online.

I'm an atheist I have no problem with schools making Christmas cards. Just don't try and force a religion on my son.

I am sure most people, regardless of faith or lack of faith, have no problem with Christmas Cards.

Winter cards is a stupid idea

For so many people, though, it’s not really a religious festival - it’s much more like the old pagan Midwinter festival - holly and ivy, eat, drink and make merry, at the darkest time of the year.

Where I live (not in the UK) there is the same agressive discussion every year. We have a "christmas market" but also a "winter wonderland" - where there is a large traditional Nativity scene . We have "festive illuminations" but also carol singing. Still, some people claim we are throwing out our traditions and our relgion. I stopped listening. Just enjoy the season! 🎄

you have picked up the unfortunate habit of stereotyping those who disagree with you as holding certain attitudes in common. I'm vegan and not 'fuming' about 'traditional values' being lost, so therefore i hate Christians. The reality is more nuanced

I haven't suggested you 'hate' anyone - you have used much stronger language than me in your posts.

I see the provision of kosher and halal food differently only because a non Muslim or Jewish person isn't required to participate in any religious ritual when it appears on the menu. They just fill their plates and eat food that is undetectable from food that isn't kosher/halal. The religious part having been done by others prior to it arriving on their plates.

I consider myself a Christian and would feel a little uncomfortable if I knew my meat was slaughtered, or my meals prepared in a religious ritual that didn't reflect my own faith, assuming this was on a regular, daily basis and not occasional. I also assume however, that you would be fine if your vegan food was prepared or blessed in the name of Jesus on a daily basis, as long as you didn't have to participate in the ritual yourself?

As long as my food is vegan, the chef could have dedicated the aubergines to Beelzebub while dancing round the kitchen in a naked frenzy (H&S and hygiene permitting) for all I care.
So, no having my food blessed in accordance with a religion wouldn't bother me.
As a matter of fact, when I recently had a health scare, I had prayers said for me by a Christian, a Sikh, and two Muslims, and despite being atheists/agnostic myself, I thought it was lovely.

Just to clarify - you would be fine if your vegan food was prepared or blessed in the name of Jesus on a daily basis? Yes or no will suffice.

I'd have no problem with it at all, as long as I wasn't expected to join in. In fact I'd be inclined to think it was rather nice if they believed it did some good, like with the prayers said for me I spoke about.

Ok, that's fine.

Tbh I'm surprised at the question. All that would be happening is that people would be expressing gratitude for food and well wishing me and my meal in accordance with their beliefs. It would be a benign act that harmed me not at all. Why would I object?
Its not the same as forcing me to join in and make a hypocrite of myself because I don't believe it. That's where my line is drawn, regardless of the religion in question.

It was probably because you sound like you feel strongly about Christmas cards here. But then you’re ok with prayers on food you’ll eat.