Christa Pike -where does she stand legally?

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Just this really. Christ a is obviously being giving life saving treatment at hospital but where does she now stand legally. I suppose she probably has irreversible brain damage so will this not allow a second execution to take place? Is this a cruel and unusual punishment?

[Note from MNHQ - edited your title, OP]

Nope. In every article I’ve seen she was referred to as a woman. The language lessens the impact that this was a young girl. Absolutely not trying to excuse what she did but at the same time it’s accepted that a few years later she wouldn’t have got the death penalty because there would have been acknowledgment that what she suffered at the hands of her family as a child would have contributed to what she became as a woman.

Tennessee’s top prison official resigning after botched execution of Christa Pike

Frank Strada leaving position as state launches independent investigation into what went wrong

it's not like the legal teamed warned them ahead of time that the injection might be difficult, or anything

Where have you been ? Her legal team explicitly warned that her execution would be highly difficult and likely to fail. They presented expert testimony detailing several medical conditions that would complicate the procedure. These included severe vein issues - they spent days in court hearings proving that Pike had compromised, and hard to access veins, making proper IV insertion difficult.

Pike also had a documented blood disorder which put her at extreme risk of veins blowing during the injection. Her legal team warned that these issues would compromise the execution leading to a prolonged failure rather than a standard execution procedure. It would seem they were right.

The whole thing is just awful. She had a horrific life and was failed by everyone around her in her childhood. The fact she was abused by the partner of the only person she felt cared for her sums up how little love and care there was in her life.

She is clearly a very damaged individual who came from a family of badly damaged individuals. She has a number of psychiatric disorders and I get the feeling that she was just a bomb waiting to go off.

Having read that psychological report there was never going to be a happy ending.

What happened at her attempted execution however was inhuman.

I also imagine that this whole thing will be re-traumatising Coleen's mother.

I think the pp was being ironic.

Yes, I was.

The whole thing was a masterclass in ineptitude which would be funny in a Mr Bean sort of way if it wasn't about a bloody execution with unrelenting horror. The fact they're now trying to save her life is just the poisoned cherry on the pie.

In the context of Pike's life it seems somehow fitting.

Articles you’ve seen? Presumably recent articles?

Ah right, that makes sense, doc doing prep but not actually delivering the killing drug. Thanks for that info.

Cornett called her ‘fried chicken’ and kept making ‘bzzzt!’ sounds at her. That was the trash talking.

There’s an interview she did for a documentary about women on death row where she explains it.

Medical personnel are not supposed to take any active role in executions, which also means they are not supposed to be establishing intravenous lines either.

It is incorrect to say that doctors can’t be involved in administering the drugs. They absolutely can be, they just can’t get caught by the AMA or they face sanction.

Hence why the states that have the death penalty also have secrecy statutes to protect the identities of any medical personnel involved.

She was calling Christa Pike fried chicken, not Jones*.

Christa Pikes account of the incident was basically “she kept calling me fried chicken and going bzzt! at me, so I tried to kill the bitch”. You would have thought that if her motivation had been to save her friend’s life, she’d have mentioned it.

Wasn’t there a halt on executions recently because the UK wouldn’t supply the US with the drugs?

honestly so much I’ve read this week can be summed up with Fuck’s Sake, America.

this is just another.

That's gross. What a mess.

The Ststes really seems to me to be a backward place. Its TV is violent, its food makes people ill. the healthcare system is a rip off. the justice system is barbaric, its politicians are corrupt billionares, .......there's nothing to like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Bear_(Black_Mirror)

I found this somewhat interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/deathpenalty/s/Z52flGJpMd

Oh goodness @EmmaOfNormandy , one of the best and most shocking episodes of Black Mirror IMO. I hadn’t even made the link to this case but yes, I see what you’re saying.

Heh, So the states involved are recruiting or pressuring doctors to go against the AMA rules?

Figures, with the way they run the rest of the shit show.

A lot of posters here would only say that it's just another example of how bleeding hearts are too soft on crime.

For the posters here who can read, there is a truly disturbing short story by Orson Scott Card - even that would be considered a holiday camp by some of the more bloodthirsty folk here.

Which story? Orson Scott Card wrote some interesting stuff, although a critique of Ender's Game that I read pointed out that Ender was, in essence, a guiltless genocider.

"A Thousand Deaths" is a science fiction novelette by Orson Scott Card first published in the December 1978 issue of Omni magazine.

Publication History
• Collections: The story was included in Card's early story collection Capitol (1979/1980) as part of the Worthing series.
• Omnibus: It also appears in Flux, volume two of the retrospective short fiction collection Maps in a Mirror (1990).

Just looked it up. Yeah. What are the bets some in the US would love that to be brought in?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7183957.stm

When asked if nitrogen would be a more humane way for the state to kill, the leading voice of the American pro-death penalty movement, Professor Robert Blecker, strongly disagrees.
"If the killers who smash their victims on the side of the heads with hammers and then slit their throats go out in a euphoric high, that is not justice".

We can't just take their lives, we have to make sure they know they're about to die.

There may be a term for it but I'm not clever enough to know it. But there should be one. For when someone does do a bad or really heinous thing, but then sadists use that to mean that they can't possibly be wrong in how they react or deal with it. And they call it virtue or justice or whatever, but really it's just an excuse for being absolutely sadistic and power mad, all while feeling virtuous for it. And the justification is always "but they did wrong".

If you can watch the documentary. It has the footage of him saying that with a rather creepy knowing smile at the thought of people suffering. I imagine he's married so off limits to the posters here who might queue up to have his children.