It Costs A Lot Of Money To Be This Cheap - Trump Thread #169

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(Title with apologies to Miss Dolly)

Griftin’ 9 to 5, what a way to make a livin’, Truth Social is the lie, it’s all takin' and no givin'.
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Tangerine, Tangerine, Tangerine, Tangeriiiiiiiiiine. I'm begging of you please don't bomb Oman.
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Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5559791-the-reaper-should-have-gone-to-specsavers-trump-thread-168

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Nope

The US has a lot of well meaning people who seem to be grossly naive in a really sheltered way that I can't really explain in terms other than living in a land of apple pie and picket fences.

I don't think we have the same thing in Europe in quite the same manner. It's this total innocence to the world probably because their news networks have been so unbelievably shite and US focused for decades.

@RedToothBrush I'm finding your posts interesting and relevant.

Hahahaha!

a voucher that can only be redeemed at a Trump casino or resort.

This would be one way of complying with the caveat - money must be spent in the USA. I was wondering how that could be policed. Did Trump specify cash or did he just name a sum?

Brett Erikson AT BrettErikson28
As bad as the global energy markets are right now, with Brent hitting $107+, diesel at all time highs, and gas hitting Labor Day highs in the United States, it should be remembered that there are likely THREE major escalations that remain in the Iran War:

1) Iran’s “October Surprise” to ensure they sink Trump at the midterms

2) Trump’s post-midterms desperate escalation

3) Iran’s major counter escalation to force Trump to cry uncle and end the war

This means that in numbers 1 and 3, there will be immense damage imposed likely on the global energy markets… but it is increasingly inevitable

The markets were saying 'this will end soon, this is as bad as it gets'.

We are now at a market correction where prices are being set on the assumption that the market is going to be upset unto at least 2027. And that the shortages could get worse.

Ross Hendricks AT Ross_Hendricks
Three key leading indicators that preceded the bursting of the Dot Com bubble in 1999...

1) Record supply of new IPOs
2) Sharp rise in oil prices
3) Sharp rise in interest rates

Guess how many of the boxes we've checked in 2026?

A perfect storm is brewing.

Tweet that covers this:

Catherine Rampell AT crampell
since becoming president again, Trump has promised:
-$5000 stimulus checks via "DOGE dividend"
-$2000 stimulus checks via "tariff dividend"
-$1000+ checks via "savings" from expiring ACA subsidies
-$5000 "dividend" if Rs win midterms
no checks have been issued

In other words. It's the same old hot air and people STILL take it remotely seriously. It's to keep people 'on the hook'.

Then do have a look at the thread @RedTagAlan linked. One of the posters there used to work at Cantor Fitzgerald and there's a lot of discussion on domestic and global financial/economic effects from the war with Iran.

@RedToothBrush , could you post links to those tweets, it makes it a lot easier to find them in full.

I will try in future. I have had issues with doing so on MN so stopped previously.

A feel-good note for the book recommenders.
I was at the library today to request/reserve several books mentioned up thread and was explaining what they were about to help the librarian locate them. Behind me in the queue was a school pupil (15/16-ish?) who stopped me to ask for the titles again as he wants to do Economics and Politics. We then had an interesting conversation on Scottish independence, capitalism and democracy. He would enjoy some of the discussions on this thread!

Nice one, @logicisall !

Here's one about the multiple promised payouts. There's one born every minute...

Sorry, as usual I'm having issues with link's. The one above is the response to a very detailed one from someone from the USTreasury Dept (or claims to be)

oh, argh. Should have dug deeper and I suspected no one currently working in the govt would ever speak out. There's now a community note.

This post is satire. Peter Girnus's X profile is self-desribed as a "cyber populist" and "hacker/writer." He has no know affiliation to federal work or involvement with stimulus-type checks for Americans. Further, his work history shows only non-federal cybersecurity work.

Actually the post is still worth a read - has a gem in it. If there is no money to finance the bribe, then legally, is it a bribe if there is no transfer of value? The comments are good too.

from NYT:
^^
... (Trump) closed out an unusual midterm convention organized in his honor by saying he was a little bored of politics. He seemed more interested in telling supporters to swear on something holy — which seemed to be himself — that they would go out and vote for Republican candidates in November.
“Please raise your right hand,” Mr. Trump instructed a rowdy crowd of thousands inside a Dallas arena on Thursday evening. Many of them complied. “I pledge to the greatest president in the history of the United States that loves us so much he can’t even breathe that I will go out with my family, my friends, I will do it any way — I don’t care if I’m registered or not, I’m going to try and cheat like hell, like they do.” (Mr. Trump usually frowns on election fraud.)
He added: “I am going to go out, and I’m going to get my friends, my family, and we are going to vote on November 3.”
^^
...Mr. Trump made it very clear, onstage and in interviews, that he would be relying on the strength of his political brand to see his party through what appear to be daunting midterm elections. He would not be straying much from his comfort zone to help vulnerable Republicans. In fact, the president said on Thursday evening, he was kind of over this.
“We’re going to have a good time listening to music,” Mr. Trump said, name-checking Christopher Macchio, an opera singer who closed out the evening. “I’m getting a little bit tired of politics now.”
Before taking the stage for the second night in Dallas, Mr. Trump was asked by Laura Ingraham of Fox News whether he intended to campaign harder than he ever had before.
“No,” he replied bluntly. Asked by Ms. Ingraham whether or not he thought his legacy was on the line ahead of the midterm elections — “Isn’t this just as important, Mr. President?” — Mr. Trump seemed almost blasé about the possibility of Republicans losing one or both chambers of Congress. “I’ll block all their bad stuff for two years. It won’t be the same, but I’ll be a blocker, what can I tell you?”
^^
The whole spectacle was a window into the mind-set of Mr. Trump and his advisers, who point to recent history as proof that he is capable of beating long odds through brashness, sheer will and an intense connection with his supporters. That relationship is unmatched in modern politics. During his own speech, Vice President JD Vance, the perceived front-runner for the 2028 Republican nomination, asked the crowd to chant his name because it felt “pretty cool.”...

This bit is interesting. "He seemed more interested in telling supporters to swear on something holy"

Because Jesus said something about that.

Mat 5:33-37 Again, you heard that it was said to the ancients: You will not swear falsely, but you will pay to the LORD your oaths; but I say to you not to swear at all; neither by Heaven, because it is the throne of God, nor by the earth, because it is His footstool, nor by Jerusalem, because it is [the] city of [the] great King, nor may you swear by your head, because you are not able to make one hair white or black; but let your word be, Yes, Yes, No, No, and that which is more than these is of the evil [one]. (LSV)

I have no opinion on swearing myself, but I would have thought such a Christian POTUS would know what Jesus said about it.

Also, the above is Mat 5:33 on. He should have looked the verse immediately before.

Mat 5:32 but I say to you that whoever may put away his wife, except for the matter of whoredom, makes her to commit adultery; and whoever may marry her who has been put away commits adultery. (LSV)

I can’t post this in screenshots as it’s too long but it seemed to say something important today on 9/11 and those who pretend they were part of it or use it to sow division 😢 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02tWQKHMQUTubwGfDDubJkpPbeXSriditer4H1Nv8LvhEAywmBr3vxaCJQZuHsZcBul&id=790773707

Link doesn’t seem to be working either, look up Mike Patterson and his story of the Lady in the Pink Suit

I am the payments logistics officer

Is it just me who starting singing The Major Generals song in my head ?

If you can’t beat em, block em from broadcasting the interview….

I am not totally against that. It is to do with an equal time rule. Trumps lackies are enforcing it, against some previous decision to only apply the rule during certain hours.

The real test, I think, is will they also apply it to Fox etc ?

Vance has arrived in NYC for the commemorations.

This year, a seventh bell will ring. Its purpose is to commemorate the thousands who died from diseases including cancer after the attacks.

I know the $5,000 will never happen, but wouldn't it be rather left wing?

If he gave everyone $5,000, wouldn't he essentially be rebating a proportion of tax paid, but also giving the same amount to people who had paid no tax? Isn't it redistribution? Wouldn't this annoy more well heeled Trump supporters?

But the only condition on the payment of this dividend that we're going to be making, so it's $5,000 to every adult. The only caveat I have is that the dividend that we're making must be spent in the United States of America. We don't want you, we don't want you going to Canada to spend the money.

Does he understand how money works?