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If you don’t live in the U.K., what unimportant thing does your school system obsess over?

231 replies

Flynnstone · 05/08/2026 18:25

In the U.K. policing uniform takes up a disproportionate amount of time. What is the equivalent pointless thing where you’re from?

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dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 15:40

TremendousThirst · 06/08/2026 03:13

I’m in Canada and watch the uniform and attendance discussions with fascination. And the Ofsted stuff. It’s all so much more relaxed here in our public (ie, state) schools.

French Immersion programs, though. Parents who don’t want to pay for private use them as a way to get away from kids and families with more needs and have their children with a more “selective” group. There can be serious competition for places in these programs, I have heard of people queueing up for days in some places where spots are scarce. Knowing French is of course also important if you want your child to ever be able to get a government job on Canada, so there is an additional class aspect. (It’s all madness, to my mind, people fighting over the chance to have their children educated not in their first language).

Same in Scotland with ‘Gaelic Provision’ AKA Private By Stealth. Could have written every word of your post myself, with the exception of the job in government part.

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 15:44

Myswweetchild · 06/08/2026 09:56

@SadiraOfTyr wow, that's some list.
How much would that cost approximately?
( I'm an ex teacher and I was lucky if the kids brought a single pen !).

Teacher in Scotland: same! 🤦🏻‍♀️

Theothertwin · 07/08/2026 15:46

igelkott2026 · 07/08/2026 15:15

I think the class rules is perhaps quite practical and helps eg with not allowing kids to watch 18 rated films or games too early.

But the playdate thing is just mind-blowing. You have to have six kids around at the same time? And entertain them, they don't entertain themselves? It's not so bad if you have a big garden and it's good weather but otherwise it must be a right pain. Does it happen that some people are seen as undesirable so somehow the playdate at their house never happens or people find a reason not to go - kids have the dentists or something?

Imagine negotiating rules not only with your child’s other parents but with 40 other adults! 🫣
Regarding play dates you don’t need to organise anything really and can just let them play but having (in our case) 4-5 kids in your house who do not normally necessarily play together and you do need to be more hands on than in other play dates (also making sure that no one is left out etc). You want it to be a success after all.

I have not encountered people avoiding going to other people’s houses as seen as undesirable or anything along those lines. When a requested play date/play group doesn’t happen it is typically as the parents haven’t gotten round to organising it.

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mangoamango · 07/08/2026 15:49

I'm in France too and it always seems crazy to me that I have to provide four different colours of ballpoint pens but 4-colour pens are not allowed. Every year the news run a story about the average weight of a kid's satchel but then she schools enforce stupid rules like this.

Last year's teacher was also overly obsessed with making them sing stupid songs (with obligatory "choir practice" outside, standing up, in a heatwave when temperatures here were above 40°c.

Looking back at the UK as an outsider, I am absolutely enthralled by any threads about lunchboxes and the amount of policing that goes on around them. Packed lunches aren't an option here - kids have lunch at school or go home and I, as a kid of the 80s, went to school with a potted meat sandwich, a bag of crisps and a bar of chocolate so all the checks I read about on here seem absolutely bonkers to me. Another thing that suggests to me that I wouldn't last 10 minutes as an adult in the UK...

principalskinna · 07/08/2026 15:59

what would happen in Denmark if you refused

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 16:04

JingsMahBucket · 06/08/2026 14:00

Yes it did! Hopefully it helps someone and their subsequent child learn how to spell the two words properly so they don’t lose points on tests or essays.

not in Scotland 😜

SummerDive · 07/08/2026 16:14

Digerydont · 06/08/2026 13:30

Do small kids still have to put their letters in squares at French primary schools?

Yes!

Well not squares because there using the ‘seyes’ but yes they are taught to write between the lines.
Including the fa t not all letters have the same high (the t is smaller than a L and d is in between the two)

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 16:15

EssCarGo · 06/08/2026 14:44

I’m in Scotland and there is absolutely zero policing of uniform at any of my kids schools. The English schools’ obsession with it, and hair colour, and piercings, and footwear, always seems quite ridiculous to me.

Uniform was almost optional by the time I left S6 😂

Natsku · 07/08/2026 16:16

igelkott2026 · 07/08/2026 15:15

I think the class rules is perhaps quite practical and helps eg with not allowing kids to watch 18 rated films or games too early.

But the playdate thing is just mind-blowing. You have to have six kids around at the same time? And entertain them, they don't entertain themselves? It's not so bad if you have a big garden and it's good weather but otherwise it must be a right pain. Does it happen that some people are seen as undesirable so somehow the playdate at their house never happens or people find a reason not to go - kids have the dentists or something?

Would be horrid if some are left out somehow when everyone else is having these group playdates.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 07/08/2026 17:00

QueenOfTheWasps · 06/08/2026 20:55

Mine went to an American school in France and then an American school in UK. The dress code was a pain, and only applied to girls - perfectly acceptable for boys to wear a vest top and short shorts but girls’ shorts needed to be just above the knee, and vest tops were not allowed. Ditto short skirts or anything else that revealed a bit of leg, arm or chest.

When my oldest (now 25) started elementary school the rules were similar to this, but they were changed over a decade ago in all the schools in our area to be much more relaxed and applicable to both boys and girls.

macshoto · 07/08/2026 17:07

Justawaterformeplease · 06/08/2026 02:33

Also obsessed with attendance in UK!

Not really unimportant!

Cocorico22 · 07/08/2026 17:44

JingsMahBucket · 06/08/2026 12:36

Folks, the word is “stationery” with an “e”.

Stationery = paper, pens, and so forth.

Stationary = a person or object not moving like a stationary exercise bike. Think of it like a physical bus or train station. A building that doesn’t move.

Indeed, the Stationary Cupboard at work has never moved, and I am glad they took the time to write and print a sign out to warn us

Flynnstone · 07/08/2026 17:45

Pileoftrash · 06/08/2026 16:18

This is my dream thread, thank you for starting it!

😊
I’m finding it fascinating. I really appreciate all the replies.

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Theothertwin · 07/08/2026 18:00

Natsku · 07/08/2026 16:16

Would be horrid if some are left out somehow when everyone else is having these group playdates.

It’s the teacher who makes the list so difficult to be left out (and no one would consider/dare not inviting everyone in the group). Though now I’m remembering once my son was forgotten from the list! We just wrote to the teacher and the list was updated: no drama, and solved in minutes.

Mandarinclementine · 07/08/2026 18:36

KrazyKatty · 07/08/2026 15:34

Yes, it’s been over 100 years and we need to stop harping back to 1922 and ditch Irish as a compulsory subject. It’s so last century!

Let’s focus on offering subjects and languages that are actually going to be useful to students who are leaving school in the 21st century.

Most parents want Irish to continue in schools so you’re in the minority with your view.
Polls and surveys have consistently shown this, though there are certainly issues about how it’s taught.

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 21:50

EssCarGo · 06/08/2026 16:09

No, I didn’t think it was everywhere which is why I said in my kids schools. But I’ve never seen a Daily Mail sad face type story in Scotland about how a kid is refused access to their education because of a haircut or their mum having to buy them cheap shoes.

Schools are of course different but across the board I think there is a general difference in tone between Scotland and England in this regard.

Educated in Scotland and currently teaching in Scotland; I agree.

ShetlandishMum · 07/08/2026 21:53

principalskinna · 07/08/2026 15:59

what would happen in Denmark if you refused

Basically nothing as playgroups are an offer from school. Most parents will probably see it as mandatory though.

If a family opts out of the scheme the child will be outside the childrens' socializing and playing which few parents want.
The school will keep an eye on the family if it refuses to take part in playgroups.

ShetlandishMum · 07/08/2026 21:58

Natsku · 07/08/2026 16:16

Would be horrid if some are left out somehow when everyone else is having these group playdates.

Every family is encouraged to participate so if a child is left out it is a parental decision.
It is not a thing in Denmark to opt out of other children's homes then invited for the school playgroup. You show up. Few questions asked.

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 22:29

One of the most interesting threads I’ve read on here.

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 22:32

bakingdisasterqueen · 07/08/2026 08:50

You think attendance monitoring is pointless?!

Eh, the poster didn’t say that…

sashh · 08/08/2026 05:57

BendingSpoons · 06/08/2026 12:42

We have relatives in Germany who were explaining about the school backpacks and how 'everybody' goes to a specialist shop to be fitted for a backpack, which I found fascinating.

They also said the airport police may challenge you if they see you travelling in term time.

I have a randoseru which is a Japanese backpack.

You don't get measured for them and there is a tradition of grandparents taking their grandchild to buy them. The proper leather ones can be £500+.

As well as being a backpack that should last until you leave school they can be used as an earthquake protection and as a floatation device.

Sunnytraces · 08/08/2026 08:39

macshoto · 07/08/2026 17:07

Not really unimportant!

It's bit ott here though isn't it.
I think stuff like 100 attendance award are a bs. I don't know anyone from mine who would get it. Because when kids are sick, they stay home. Pushing through some ilnesse scan have lasting cumulative effect. Do you know what we also don't have? Noro doing rounds. Coincidence? Maybe🤔 Now, summer camp is a different matter with noro.... 😂

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 08/08/2026 09:05

Natsku · 07/08/2026 16:16

Would be horrid if some are left out somehow when everyone else is having these group playdates.

DD was only ever invited by one Girl who left in third class. It got better when she was too old for after school club and could arrange it herself. But after several weekends biking round the village getting nowhere she's basically given up. I didn't have the headspace to host (DH did a few times).

Natsku · 08/08/2026 09:14

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 08/08/2026 09:05

DD was only ever invited by one Girl who left in third class. It got better when she was too old for after school club and could arrange it herself. But after several weekends biking round the village getting nowhere she's basically given up. I didn't have the headspace to host (DH did a few times).

Sorry your DD was only invited by one girl :(
There's a boy in DS's class who had only arrived in the country shortly before school started so didn't speak much Finnish yet so was struggling to fit in to the class, something like encouraged playdates might have helped him perhaps. But I made DS invite him to his birthday party which helped a bit at least.

DEparent · 08/08/2026 09:49

Fiderer · 07/08/2026 11:07

That brings back so many memories! Once we got the class reps sorted fairly quickly but stalled on the class rep for governors. I cracked and was elected. Ended up elected as chair. Tried feebly to plead my written German wasn't up to all the reports, brushed off as my "outsider" views would be a positive thing.

It was all fine. Some of the other governors told me they appreciated the fact I'd not let a point be ticked off because I'd ask "But why do we have to do it like this?" and the Head would seethe and couldn't answer "Because we always have and that's what I want."
Recall though with horror a meeting with the mayor and various official bods where my nerves made my German fairly unintelligible.

You are brave, Fiderer! Hats off, I would have struggled with the official meeting too.

Another German primary and kindergarten obsession: cold feet will make your child ill. A lot of effort is made to ensure that kids don't get cold feet in winter.

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