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If you don’t live in the U.K., what unimportant thing does your school system obsess over?

231 replies

Flynnstone · 05/08/2026 18:25

In the U.K. policing uniform takes up a disproportionate amount of time. What is the equivalent pointless thing where you’re from?

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Natsku · 07/08/2026 04:03

DEparent · 06/08/2026 22:54

Germany - very formal elections for PTA rep at the first whole-class parents evening of the year. The class teachers leave the room, parents pick an election overseer and nobody can go home until two parents are elected. I was once at a parents evening where nobody volunteered and it took half an hour until two people cracked.

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That just sounds so very German, I love it.

sashh · 07/08/2026 05:26

SadiraOfTyr · 06/08/2026 09:40

France: stationary. You get a list of stationary that you need to bring with you at la rentrée (start of year). It is specific to both the school and the year, and sometimes even the teacher. Local stationers have access to the list and will prepare packs so you can buy the whole lot.

Here is a typical list for CM2 (equivalent to year 6):
4 ballpoints (blue, black, red, green)
2 pencils
12 colour felt tips
12 colour crayons
rubber
96 page A4 notebook
96 page A5 notebook
correction pen
21cm 60degree set square
30cm ruler
12cm protractor
12cm scissors
compass
5 tubes of coloured gouache
3 paintbrushes (different sizes)
pencil case
A4 pre-perforated paper
double A4 pre-perforated paper
flexible A4 folder
rigid A4 folder
2 A4 notebook protectors
gluestick
A5 music notation notebook
Planner
Plastic wrap
A4 protective pockets (pre-perforated)
pencil sharpener
tape dispenser
50 pocket binder

I don't think some of these stationary items even exist in the UK - I've never seen double A4 pre-perforated paper or porte-vues (which I translated as pocket binders), or stylo correcteur (which I translated as correction pen).

One of the highlights of my childhood holidays in France, having mooch around a stationary shop.

The correction pen - that to me is a pen that erases ink (but only fountain pen ink) with a blue pen you can use to write over the erased word.

principalskinna · 07/08/2026 05:29

It's stationERy

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MagdaLenor · 07/08/2026 05:37

SleepingStandingUp · 07/08/2026 01:48

Whilst I think not being abek to take I na pencil sharpener is ott, I think not bring able to take in knives is a positive step. Not 12 year old needs to be walking around school or on the bus home carrying a pocket knife

They all bring in pencil sharpeners. They're just not allowed to bring knives in.

parkintrouble · 07/08/2026 05:43

GreenLemonade · 06/08/2026 11:09

Very interesting!

Poland: changing shoes from outdoor to indoor. Indoor shoes have to have white outer soles, presumably so that it’s easier to check that they haven’t been worn outside. Fair enough in winter when it’s muddy and snowy. In the summer, kids just end up changing from one pair of trainers to another. Teachers take it very seriously, they check everyone’s shoes and mark students down if they suspect outdoor shoes are worn indoors.

We had this at my middle school in the UK in the 90s. It just seemed normal to me at the time

Snugglemonkey · 07/08/2026 07:31

Kingdomofsleep · 06/08/2026 11:27

I'm a teacher in England but I was recently chatting to a teacher from Wales who said that it's a requirement to have a bit of "incidental" Welsh language in all your lessons. NB he is a science teacher, who is not fluent in Welsh himself. So it's a case of memorising phrases like "sit down everyone" in Welsh and then immediately switching back to teaching about microbes in English. Seems pointless...!

You don't see why it is a nice thing for children to feel a connection to their native language?

scalt · 07/08/2026 07:41

GreenLemonade · 06/08/2026 11:09

Very interesting!

Poland: changing shoes from outdoor to indoor. Indoor shoes have to have white outer soles, presumably so that it’s easier to check that they haven’t been worn outside. Fair enough in winter when it’s muddy and snowy. In the summer, kids just end up changing from one pair of trainers to another. Teachers take it very seriously, they check everyone’s shoes and mark students down if they suspect outdoor shoes are worn indoors.

Mumsnet would love this, given the number of “shoes off indoors” threads, all very hotly debated.

SadiraOfTyr · 07/08/2026 08:03

SleepingStandingUp · 07/08/2026 01:48

Whilst I think not being abek to take I na pencil sharpener is ott, I think not bring able to take in knives is a positive step. Not 12 year old needs to be walking around school or on the bus home carrying a pocket knife

I suppose it’s because in rural areas carrying an Opinel is as normal as wearing a watch or taking your keys. None of my French relatives would ever be without a pocket knife in their handbag or trouser pocket. I was given my first one by my grand-père when I was 5.

SleepingStandingUp · 07/08/2026 08:29

sashh · 07/08/2026 05:26

One of the highlights of my childhood holidays in France, having mooch around a stationary shop.

The correction pen - that to me is a pen that erases ink (but only fountain pen ink) with a blue pen you can use to write over the erased word.

God that correction pen makes me feel 11 all over again 😂 we used fountain pens at high school

parkintrouble · 07/08/2026 08:44

SadiraOfTyr · 07/08/2026 08:03

I suppose it’s because in rural areas carrying an Opinel is as normal as wearing a watch or taking your keys. None of my French relatives would ever be without a pocket knife in their handbag or trouser pocket. I was given my first one by my grand-père when I was 5.

Same when I grew up in the UK.
We were all given swiss army knives when we were primary age. We were taught how to use them safely and saw it as a responsibility

bakingdisasterqueen · 07/08/2026 08:50

Justawaterformeplease · 06/08/2026 02:33

Also obsessed with attendance in UK!

You think attendance monitoring is pointless?!

bakingdisasterqueen · 07/08/2026 08:59

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 06/08/2026 13:15

Did that make you feel better?

Well, as the general topic is around education it's not a bad call. Someone up thread thought monitoring attendance was over the top but given education standards are so poor it seems like a good idea.

NellyNoMates · 07/08/2026 09:04

bakingdisasterqueen · 07/08/2026 08:50

You think attendance monitoring is pointless?!

To be fair, I don’t think anyone is saying that monitoring attendance is pointless. However, England does seem to take things to the extreme with their fines and with stories of people being refused permission to attend funerals and weddings etc.

We care about attendance here in NI, and we consistently get the best grades at GCSE/A level than the rest of the UK, yet there are zero fines and no-one is being told they can’t attend an important family event. I would love to see the stats on attendance across the home nations because I do not believe for one second that England has better attendance than the other nations because of their draconian measures, and the evidence is already in that they don’t achieve higher results because of it.

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 07/08/2026 09:33

OneMoreCookieMonster · 06/08/2026 22:28

I have family in southern Ontario and went to both elementary and high school in Ontario as well.

Back in the early 00's school was obsessed over projects being handed in either in duo tang folders or on Bristol board.

Stationery was for high school and off the top of my head it was;
Scientific calculator
Compass set
Pens and pencils (any kind but had to have a red and black pen)
3 ring binder and lined or squares (math)
Binder separators for each subject and binder
Highlighters any colour
Pencil crayons
Pencil case again any type
Erasers and white out

We didn't have uniform but gang colours/ bandanas were forbidden. We did have a gym uniform though. It was just a t-shirt and shorts with the school logo in high school. If you did any team sports you'd had to have the uniform as well. There was also a gym fee paid yearly.

Once you were 16 you could be 'empancipated' via parental consent for school purposes - so in effect you could write tour own sick notes and late notes. I don't know if this was school specific or not as Ontario doesn't have emancipation laws.

There was also a huge push to do OAC (grade 13) you had to have 5 credits irc to go to university. Otherwise it was college.

Totally agree with the Bristol board - there was an obsession :)

worstofbothworlds · 07/08/2026 09:58

My DC2 vomited on a teacher in Y7 and was off for two further days, it was down as "unauthorised medical". In the US we took two days to go on a long weekend and it was "have a great trip".

GreenLemonade · 07/08/2026 10:40

WonderfulSmith · 06/08/2026 21:00

That’s interesting. I have a question if I may. I have taught a number of Polish children in the past in the U.K. All of them have refused to take their shoes and socks off in the school hall. All the children in question were born in the U.K. or came as small children. Is it common in Poland to never be barefoot?

It’s fairly common to be barefoot at home. It would be unusual at school, I can only recall being barefoot during gymnastics and at the swimming pool. But in general, I don’t think Polish attitude towards bare feet is much different from the British.

Fiderer · 07/08/2026 11:07

DEparent · 06/08/2026 22:54

Germany - very formal elections for PTA rep at the first whole-class parents evening of the year. The class teachers leave the room, parents pick an election overseer and nobody can go home until two parents are elected. I was once at a parents evening where nobody volunteered and it took half an hour until two people cracked.

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That brings back so many memories! Once we got the class reps sorted fairly quickly but stalled on the class rep for governors. I cracked and was elected. Ended up elected as chair. Tried feebly to plead my written German wasn't up to all the reports, brushed off as my "outsider" views would be a positive thing.

It was all fine. Some of the other governors told me they appreciated the fact I'd not let a point be ticked off because I'd ask "But why do we have to do it like this?" and the Head would seethe and couldn't answer "Because we always have and that's what I want."
Recall though with horror a meeting with the mayor and various official bods where my nerves made my German fairly unintelligible.

Gwenhwyfar · 07/08/2026 11:13

Snugglemonkey · 07/08/2026 07:31

You don't see why it is a nice thing for children to feel a connection to their native language?

As a Welsh speaker I have serious doubts about incidental Welsh too.

Mandarinclementine · 07/08/2026 11:18

Gwenhwyfar · 07/08/2026 11:13

As a Welsh speaker I have serious doubts about incidental Welsh too.

Why is that @Gwenhwyfar?

I’m not Welsh but Irish, and in primary school here Irish is meant to be used incidentally throughout the day as well as being taught specifically as a subject.

Is that approach wrong in your opinion?

Gwenhwyfar · 07/08/2026 11:21

Mandarinclementine · 07/08/2026 11:18

Why is that @Gwenhwyfar?

I’m not Welsh but Irish, and in primary school here Irish is meant to be used incidentally throughout the day as well as being taught specifically as a subject.

Is that approach wrong in your opinion?

I have doubts about it. The teachers using it don't necessarily speak well themselves or, as I presume is the case with the science teacher the poster mentioned, are actually unwillingly using incidental Welsh (and some are even anti-Welsh). Better to teach it properly as a subject by qualified teachers and encourage immersion education (which another poster complained about in the Basque country).
You're talking about primary school where the teacher in question is presumably a fluent speaker themselves.

Fiderer · 07/08/2026 11:27

Thankfully there's no uniform here in Germany and no school run either. Some parents do pick their children up but mostly they walk in primary, some take the bus or train and by secondary (aged 10) that's standard.

Stationery and books have to be bought but you can borrow them for a fee. When lost the parents have to pay the full cost and my 3 only ever seemed to lose the fat expensive textbooks or atlases at €30 a pop, and that was a decade ago.

When my 3 were at school the obsession was exercise books and stationery. I don't think they're as obsessive about stationery now, judging by the contents of my students' pencil cases. When my daughter was in Year 6 her teachers had a list on the board, names and missing items highlighted. She was embarrassed and I spoke to them in the staff room and pointed out I wasn't buying any more bloody geometry triangles until she started geometry as her brothers had lost/broken countless before they had.

Attendance isn't done by any metrics, when we notice frequent absences we get in touch with the parents and sometimes the school social worker.

ThaneOfGlamis · 07/08/2026 11:39

Sunnytraces · 06/08/2026 11:22

Not poland but slippers too. No exceptions.
It actually is case in some workplaces too

Ohhh I want to work somewhere with mandatory slippers! That would be a dream come true.

Phineyj · 07/08/2026 12:26

NamelessNancy · 06/08/2026 16:25

I thought we were the only British family who did that. I used to love getting all my french stationery!

I am a British teachers and if I died and went to Heaven, I'd want it to look exactly like the stationery section of a large French supermarket.

They also have a brilliant range of magazines which my French is just good enough to read.

But the best thing is the brightly coloured folders with the numbered tabs and a couple of elastics to keep everything safely inside.

IbnBattutu · 07/08/2026 13:29

parkintrouble · 07/08/2026 08:44

Same when I grew up in the UK.
We were all given swiss army knives when we were primary age. We were taught how to use them safely and saw it as a responsibility

Denmark - knives and fire from a young age.

In nursery the kids start off with vegetable peelers to sit and remove the 'skin' from young tree branches. You see these tots of two and three sitting in a circle or around a table concentrating while they work away. It teaches great fine motor skills. By the time they are 5 and 6 they are allowed to whittle away with knives (supervised).

Also from the same age it is common for nursery to have open fires outside to make pancakes and snobrød. Snobrød is a bread that you cook by making the dough into a long sausage and wrapping it around the end of a long stick (that you yourself have whittled clean and pointy). The snobrød is then held and turned over a bonfire until cooked through. The trick is not to set it on fire by getting it too close to the coals! The pancakes are made in frying pans attached to a long pole and held over the fire.

I'd go so far as to say no Danish child, by the age of 8 years old, is ignorant about how to use and behave around knives and open flames.

IbnBattutu · 07/08/2026 13:31

I've just remember something else that made me go 'wtf' back when the kids were younger. When the child starts school, at age 6, we got a home visit from their school teacher. The teacher wanted to meet them in their home environment. Meet the parents, siblings and even take a look at where the child slept.

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