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Rich friend pretending to be poor

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iThinkYouAreWonderful · Yesterday 21:05

My friend pretends to be poor when she is in fact quite wealthy. She pretends in very little, subtle ways. She talks about the all the things she can't afford, to distract from all the things she can. She has a similar level of income to me, but keeps going on and on about my "expensive house", as if its something she can't afford (her house is a similar size, just slightly less done-up). My guess is that it makes her feel like one of the people, but it drives me up the wall. How can I stop being irritated by her and just let her "do her"?

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GameOfJones · Today 08:07

When people say they “can’t afford” something it’s often a polite way of saying “I am choosing not to prioritise that in my budget”

This is certainly the case for me. I don't think it's lying, we are just using our money elsewhere. I invest quite heavily into my pension and stocks and shares ISA as we're planning for early retirement and to help DDs out with house deposits and once that money is paid out of my account it has gone.... I'm not dipping into it. Similarly we'll prioritise holidays to have a trip abroad each year but don't spend a lot on other stuff like takeaways, hairdressers, clothes, cars etc.

It can sometimes feel like you're between a rock and a hard place because saying you can't afford it seems more polite than "I've invested all of my spare money this month." If you are honest you get judged.... I remember someone once making a comment "must be so nice for you" when I mentioned doing the weekly shop at M&S.

Where I draw the line though is if people are not paying their own way or sponging off others. If I do go out I most certainly will pay for myself and not let others pick up the bill. I think that's rude AF to plead poverty and let others contribute on your behalf.

user1492757084 · Today 08:19

Why focus on any friend's disposable income and why think they are faking?
No one really knows except the tax man.

Not buying new things is extremely good for the planet Earth.

I don't understand why anyone, rich or poor, consumes more than they need.

Maybe your friend is giving excuses due to feeling pressured to buy when she just wants to save money to pay off debt and buy insurance.

Aslana · Today 08:21

Some people are simply mean! Perhaps coming from a fear of losing their money/ safety. Taken to extremes it can be a problem. Example is of someone who never pays their way but is happy for others to do so and accepts their contribution when this person is definitely wealthier than all the others in the group! Best avoid.

Toohotforwork · Today 08:22

WaitingForMojo · Yesterday 22:31

She wants to live like common people…

...she wants to do what ever common people do...

Additup · Today 08:30

bigboykitty · Yesterday 22:06

Don't you feel embarrassed about being so disingenuous? I feel embarrassed for you.

It's not disingenuous though. If you have a set budget for the month it's sensible not to want to spend more or having to dip into savings (which may not be accessible anyway).

Maybe, just maybe there is a link between being careful with money and accruing wealth......

Sinescure · Today 08:31

I had a friend who used to do this growing up. Lived in the same size house with one sibling as I did with many. Parents earned way more. Went to Oxford with mummy and daddy paying the bills and lived at home in the vacations while I worked my way through a northern uni self-supporting all year round. All fine, not her fault, but the years of bitching about how poor she was really got to me.

Speakeasier · Today 08:40

Ineedanewsofa · Yesterday 22:15

Fortunately I don’t embarrass easily! I don’t think I am being disingenuous, I’m being polite because the alternative is often me saying “that’s not worth spending money on IMO” which might upset someone who thinks it is worth spending money on - with my close friends I can absolutely say “fuck no, I can’t think of anything worse than an abseiling weekend/bongo’s bingo/seeing a Norwegian Throat Singing concert so I won’t spend money on it” but with people who know me less well “can’t afford it” seems more socially acceptable.

Really? But if they know you at all well they’d know you could afford it but choose not to. I don’t know who these people are who’d find that more socially acceptable. I’d much rather someone just said it’s not my thing than I can’t afford it about everything. Makes you sound like you want people to feel sorry for you.

JumpingJimny · Today 08:47

basiically · Yesterday 23:12

Not well off = being poor = being told to get a better job or get a job.
Well off = having more money = being told to stop bragging.
You just cant win.

Or just don’t keep directing the conversation towards money?

I have a similar friend and I find it infuriating. She will plead poverty, say she can’t afford things, has no money, say things are out of her price range…. then go and order a new kitchen, a new car, have the garden done etc etc.

Then casually drop in that she has no mortgage, or talk about all her savings etc.

I’m not sure what she’s trying to achieve , because all it does it make it seem like nothing she says is true, and it’s all just attention seeking drama.

FeministThrowingAPrincessParty · Today 08:53

Divebar2021 · Yesterday 23:34

A couple of years ago there was an incredibly divisive thread about this issue. A family were in a group of friends and could frequently “
not afford “ ( in inverted commas ) to do certain trips so the group would make changes to accommodate them ( cheaper places etc ). They also couldn’t afford to send their son to a rugby camp so one of the other parents paid for him to go. When their kids turned 18 they gifted them some huge amount of money - £200k or something that they’d saved. ( I forget the precise amount). Turns out not affording was not quite accurate. It really divided the friendship group and MN. I personally thought it was F-ing offensive to sit there accepting charity for your children to do events that you could well afford ( but are choosing not to ). I certainly wouldn’t let a friend pretend to be poor if I knew that wasn’t the case but I’d do it in a nice way.

Yes, I remember that thread. That was extreme!

Ineedanewsofa · Today 08:55

Speakeasier · Today 08:40

Really? But if they know you at all well they’d know you could afford it but choose not to. I don’t know who these people are who’d find that more socially acceptable. I’d much rather someone just said it’s not my thing than I can’t afford it about everything. Makes you sound like you want people to feel sorry for you.

Not asking people to feel sorry for me, it seems like PPs are imagining me saying “oh no, I’d love to but sadly cannot afford it” in a sob story way, whereas it’s never like that. I certainly wouldn’t accept if someone offered to pay for me!
As I’ve said above, it’s usually with pushy acquaintances who won’t accept their niche hobby/interest isn’t the best thing ever and not having the money to do it is the only reason they’ll accept for refusing. Even then, I don’t “plead poverty” as someone suggested, it’s always a matter of fact statement.

wishingonastar101 · Today 08:56

I have a friend like this... she will say stuff like "we were never rich growing up but we did have enough land for a couple of horses because mummy loved to ride" or "we didn't have much money growing up so some summers we just stayed at our holiday home in France the whole summer! Not a real holiday like other people"

Nightingalemoonshine · Today 08:57

You can’t actually know other people’s financial situations. You also won’t understand their priories. Be careful not to make assumptions!

HolyHannah · Today 09:08

bigboykitty · Today 07:33

It is though. Your 'pots' don't make it true. In your frame of reference, you can have a million pounds in your floristry budget, but if you've spent your coffee/lunch budget, you'll say you can't afford it. It's not genuine. You have money. You don't want to spend it on what's being suggested.

So unless people have £0 in their account they shouldn't use the phrase "I can't afford it"? That's ridiculous! And clearly not how the majority of people are using it.

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