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Work not taking red alert seriously

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Founderflower · Yesterday 11:39

Why are some people not taking the red weather warning seriously? Where I am it’s 39 degrees on Wed/ Thur but ‘feels like’ 42 according to BBC.

At work they’re expecting everyone in - the office is air conditioned, so fine, but we’re central London so everyone needs to schlep in on public transport.

Red means a danger to life and not just for vulnerable people. Some people who are healthy will die because of the weather. There’s warnings of power outages and transport failures. So what happens if we get stuck on a broken down underground train?

I KNOW other countries see these temps regularly. But they are prepared for dealing with it. England is not and it fucks up. I don’t want a heart attack from sitting in 48 degree heat on a train. I’m really stressed out!

If it were a red warning around severe wind or rain or flooding they wouldn’t be telling everyone to come in! So why is heat seen differently?

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BeSunnyLemonSheep · Yesterday 12:20

Founderflower · Yesterday 12:18

All those saying to get up early and walk - it’s about a 2 hour walk. I am a single parent so can’t leave before I drop my child off. I will need to travel at 8:30 and return at 5pm

Which is a perfectly fine time to travel. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

Honestly some people just crave drama.

LoserWinner · Yesterday 12:20

Founderflower · Yesterday 11:56

It’s a 2 hour walk. With lots of hills. In a red extreme heat wave?

This is what I’m talking about, stupid ‘deal with it’ way of thinking.

I walk for two hours every day. In London. It’s way more pleasant than the tube on a hot day.

You think my approach is ‘stupid’. I think your attitude is rather defeatist.

igelkott2026 · Yesterday 12:20

Yetone · Yesterday 12:19

so you won’t be travelling in the hottest part of the day.

5pm is very close to the hottest part of the day- the heat continues to build from lunchtime.

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Honeyhonay · Yesterday 12:21

Founderflower · Yesterday 12:18

All those saying to get up early and walk - it’s about a 2 hour walk. I am a single parent so can’t leave before I drop my child off. I will need to travel at 8:30 and return at 5pm

So you’re happy for your child to be in a hot childcare setting all day but you couldn’t possibly go to your office?

ShhhhhItsASurprise · Yesterday 12:22

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

You couldn’t pay me enough to be on a Central or Northern line tube in a heatwave.

BauhausOfEliott · Yesterday 12:22

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

LOL. Have you ever been on a crowded Tube train in hot weather? Firstly, large sections of many of the Tube lines are not, in fact, underground at all. Secondly, even underground it absolutely is affected by surface temperature, and additionally, the temperature is elevated at rush hour because of the number of people in the carriage. An enclosed space that is crammed with people will feel much warmer than being being outdoors with space and circulating air around you.

There's a reason people faint on public transport in the heat, rather than walking along the high street.

ThatMintMember · Yesterday 12:23

England is terrible for weather warnings, they issue them over nothing sometimes so often aren't taken seriously. I remember trying to drive to work during the beast from the east storm years ago. I skidded twice on snow less than 5 minutes into my journey, I turned around and went home and lost pay for that day. No job is worth risking your life over.

If you have the option to work from home I'd just decide to do that and let them know on the day. Just say you're feeling under the weather.

TooHotMyIcecreamHasMelted · Yesterday 12:23

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

I take it you’ve never travelled on the central line?

Settlersa · Yesterday 12:24

Can't you take a couple of days leave

Lifewontbethesame · Yesterday 12:25

Founderflower · Yesterday 12:00

But why should we? There’s a literal risk to our lives. It’s an official warning. Why should I risk my life to sit in an office when I can work from home? It’s insanity

These weather warnings are very new. Prior to the government spoon feeding us we just used our common sense. 20 years ago I lived in the South East at the temperature was 39c one summer. These heat waves are not new. The threat to life generally does mean those who can't regulate their body temperatures well like the very young and old. I mean millions of Brits purposely seek out these temperatures and pay a lot of money to enjoy intense heat 🤷.
At least you work in an air conditioned office and not in a heated operating theatre in full PPE like some people, or a kitchen!

bookworm14 · Yesterday 12:27

Notmycircusnotmyotter · Yesterday 11:58

Why so much drama over a bit of warm weather?

I am absolutely sick of this glib bullshit. 40 degree heat in the UK in June is not just ‘a bit of warm weather’; it’s unprecedented and will kill people.

Ultraalox · Yesterday 12:28

Sorry if it’s been said, but can you email your head or dept or whoever that is to confirm that they want you to travel on a red weather warning day - risk to life - for a job you can do from home.
emphasis the fact it’s not to do with the air con in the office but the travel (walk and train) if enough people in the office are calling them out on it!
or take AL.

yonem · Yesterday 12:28

Yetone · Yesterday 12:19

so you won’t be travelling in the hottest part of the day.

5pm actually is the hottest part of the day because the heat carries on building up through the afternoon.

Work not taking red alert seriously
Meadowfinch · Yesterday 12:28

Dilemma999 · Yesterday 12:07

Have you contacted your managers to say there’s now a red alert ‘danger to life’ warning? Point it out and see what the response is.

The "danger to life" is for the very elderly, or poorly or very young, or anyone who's daft enough to sit out in direct sunlight with no sun block for eight hours.

Normal healthy adults who take appropriate precautions will be fine.

Limehawkmoth · Yesterday 12:29

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
clearly you’ve never been on underground in London or only in mild weather
we’re not talking about a cave
heat down there is generated by thousands of people, machines etc. it struggles to escape, when temp is hot outside coming though open parts of tunnels etc it just builds.
even in winter it is never cold down there

and I live up north ! Good luck all you sweaty Londoners (inclucluding my DC)😱

BashfulClam · Yesterday 12:29

This is when I actually like the Scottish weather.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · Yesterday 12:30

@bookworm14its high drama when a bit of common sense and lots of water would suffice

yonem · Yesterday 12:30

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 12:28

The "danger to life" is for the very elderly, or poorly or very young, or anyone who's daft enough to sit out in direct sunlight with no sun block for eight hours.

Normal healthy adults who take appropriate precautions will be fine.

No. The Met Office specifically says there is a danger to the general population, not just the vulnerable:

  • ”Population-wide adverse health effects experienced, not limited to those most vulnerable to extreme heat, leading to serious illness or danger to life”
Ultraalox · Yesterday 12:30

Also to add I think it’s utterly stupid - surely less people on trains the better. Those emergency service workers/NHS/whoever can get to where they need to go more safely.
Generic office workers just don’t need to be in.

eastsheener · Yesterday 12:31

Notmycircusnotmyotter · Yesterday 12:15

Most of London is walkable. It takes me 20-25 min to walk from Waterloo to the City.

Ha ha how long will it take me to walk from Tottenham Hale to White City? Not 25 minutes I can assure you

HotGrapefruit · Yesterday 12:32

Ultraalox · Yesterday 12:30

Also to add I think it’s utterly stupid - surely less people on trains the better. Those emergency service workers/NHS/whoever can get to where they need to go more safely.
Generic office workers just don’t need to be in.

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Exactly! This is why they’ve banned selling alcohol outside in Paris for the festival - to protect health services for people who are vulnerable, not just the idiots who think it’s “just a bit of warm weather” and try to walk for two hours in 40 degree heat… FFS.

bookworm14 · Yesterday 12:32

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ButlerianJihadNow · Yesterday 12:32

People are making this an OP problem when really it's a failure of management. Who should she walk 2 hours at 6 am or whatever as a single parent just to absolve her +1 of their duty of care to staff?

OfDragonsDeep · Yesterday 12:32

Just tell your boss that you’re working from home?

Ultraalox · Yesterday 12:33

ButlerianJihadNow · Yesterday 12:32

People are making this an OP problem when really it's a failure of management. Who should she walk 2 hours at 6 am or whatever as a single parent just to absolve her +1 of their duty of care to staff?

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