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Work not taking red alert seriously

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Founderflower · Yesterday 11:39

Why are some people not taking the red weather warning seriously? Where I am it’s 39 degrees on Wed/ Thur but ‘feels like’ 42 according to BBC.

At work they’re expecting everyone in - the office is air conditioned, so fine, but we’re central London so everyone needs to schlep in on public transport.

Red means a danger to life and not just for vulnerable people. Some people who are healthy will die because of the weather. There’s warnings of power outages and transport failures. So what happens if we get stuck on a broken down underground train?

I KNOW other countries see these temps regularly. But they are prepared for dealing with it. England is not and it fucks up. I don’t want a heart attack from sitting in 48 degree heat on a train. I’m really stressed out!

If it were a red warning around severe wind or rain or flooding they wouldn’t be telling everyone to come in! So why is heat seen differently?

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Goingbonkers247 · Today 18:14

watford to euston said essential travel only on weds to thursday. Last time delays were hours and train station in euston was chaos. i eventually got home but they said the lines were buckled due to heat. I really need to go in tomorrow so hoping it wont be a total nightmare.
I would call in sick if i could. lol

Doodlesplodge17 · Today 18:15

Sorry OP but try working in a kitchen!! No air conditioning there and if the external temp is 34 as forecast it’ll be 12-14 degrees higher with 75-80% humidity in our works kitchen. It’s absolutely horrendous, but you know what? It’s my job 🤷🏻‍♀️

jjW29 · Today 18:15

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

You’ve obviously never been stuck underground in a tube train in the summer,there might be no sunshine but there’s hundreds of sweaty bodies,glaring lights and there is airflow but it’s hot air not cool

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bafta16 · Today 18:17

hugasaurus · Yesterday 11:49

“How on earth do you think those who live in hot countries survive?”

Acclimated to the heat, buildings designed to stay cool v keep heat in, air conditioning as routine, lifestyles that avoid certain things at certain times of day, not as high humidity, etc.

The whole point is that Britain is not set up for heat like this, hence why there is a ‘danger to life’ warning for some areas. People are not used to this level of heat, the infrastructure of our country is not designed for this level of heat. It’s a bit disingenuous to say ‘Well people in blah blah blah have this all the time!’ It’s like asking why we can’t handle the snow as well as Alaska.

Marble, no curtains , no carpets.

StressedOutButProudMama · Today 18:17

Seriously what you mean is you don't want to work. Bet your ok to get public transport to the pub though. Weather doesn't stop the world from moving. Take a pocket fan with you and a water bottle be prepared.

lostfather666 · Today 18:19

speak to union rep or call your lawyer

NavyTurtle · Today 18:19

Founderflower · Yesterday 11:39

Why are some people not taking the red weather warning seriously? Where I am it’s 39 degrees on Wed/ Thur but ‘feels like’ 42 according to BBC.

At work they’re expecting everyone in - the office is air conditioned, so fine, but we’re central London so everyone needs to schlep in on public transport.

Red means a danger to life and not just for vulnerable people. Some people who are healthy will die because of the weather. There’s warnings of power outages and transport failures. So what happens if we get stuck on a broken down underground train?

I KNOW other countries see these temps regularly. But they are prepared for dealing with it. England is not and it fucks up. I don’t want a heart attack from sitting in 48 degree heat on a train. I’m really stressed out!

If it were a red warning around severe wind or rain or flooding they wouldn’t be telling everyone to come in! So why is heat seen differently?

You work in an air conditioned office. Yes public transport gets hot. So what. Walk. I work on a construction site with metal cabins with a plastic roof all day .....

Isinglass20 · Today 18:24

is OPs boss travelling to work in his car which has aircon? Ask him if he’ll give you a lift if he wants you in work.

Isinglass20 · Today 18:26

The bin men in Liverpool are collecting at 5 am tomorrow 😅

menopausalfart · Today 18:28

There are a lot of competitive hardships in this thread. Reminds me of a Dudley-Moore sketch. If someone has it worse, then your complaint isn't valid.

MumsTheWordYouKnow · Today 18:28

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

Well that’s not true. Have you been on the tube in the summer

Zita60 · Today 18:28

NavyTurtle · Today 18:19

You work in an air conditioned office. Yes public transport gets hot. So what. Walk. I work on a construction site with metal cabins with a plastic roof all day .....

Walk 10 miles to central London?

Fatchilli99 · Today 18:29

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

The London underground is higher temperatures than you would think. I've heard they are rising annually as well because the way they are built and features of it hold the heat as does the surrounding ground/clay. It acts like clay ovens so you cook slowly in them . I think they are not far or 40° in some parts . Newer tunnels /builds are better designed and incorporate air conditioning.
I think I've seen at present they are saying don't travel unless necessary and carry water . They probably have speed restrictions in place too because of track expansion.
Me I wouldn't want to be trapped down there

MumsTheWordYouKnow · Today 18:30

Doodlesplodge17 · Today 18:15

Sorry OP but try working in a kitchen!! No air conditioning there and if the external temp is 34 as forecast it’ll be 12-14 degrees higher with 75-80% humidity in our works kitchen. It’s absolutely horrendous, but you know what? It’s my job 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’m sure there are rules against working in that heat!

plumclafoutis · Today 18:30

LKK13 · Today 11:33

If you can wfh then simple logic is insist you work from home, otherwise call in sick if you’re boss won’t allow it.
Try being a nurse/doctor/domestic/porter. I work for the NHS in a building with no air con, as do many others. There are no provisions for us, no pub drinks, not even a cold water dispenser other than a luke warm tap. We visit the vulnerable in the community in a car with no air con. I work 12.5 hr days and I am working on Thursday. Son’s nursery had also decided to close. It’ll be lots of fun for me and my colleagues!

Thank you, and all essential workers, for the work you do, especially in such challenging situations.

Abouteffingtime · Today 18:31

My notoriously useless employer (Local authority!! But my actual dept worse than the rest) has told me to wfh all week.

WobblyLondoner · Today 18:33

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

No logic whatsoever in this reply - always significantly hotter in the underground than up top.

You have my sympathies OP. Aircon is fine, but you have to get there as you say. My work has been very helpful - a lot of meetings moving to hybrid. I’m sorry your employer hadn’t been.

FlyingSteve · Today 18:34

GaIadriel · Today 18:08

Well, that and the fact that most of the more recent studies show a significant drop in productivity when wfh. People made the effort when it was a novelty/privilege. Now many just take the piss.

Really? Which studies would these be? You don't think that it suits the return to office narrative to suggest that productivity supoosedly 'drops off a cliff' when at home?

I have seen no scientific evidence whatsoever to indicate conclusively either way that working from home has any marked detrimental impact on a person's ability to work.

From my own personal experience I work far better at home and am far more productive. I go into the office when I supposedly have to and sit in an open plan where people cannot decide whether they want the air conditioning to be 18 degrees or 26 degrees, where people's laughter is apparently a thousand times louder than it usually is, where you're forced to somehow share a kitchen with 10 forks among 500 employees in the absence of Mr J Christ himself, where there aren't enough meeting rooms for the meetings that are required so everyone dials in from their desks but can then hear one another so has to move somewhere else, supposed hot desking where people leave tubs of ramen, plants and receipts all over the desk and where there is very little sense of personal boundary or space.

I'm glad you had a great weekend and the bas*ard of an ex husband hasn't stopped you from cutting the lawn. Can I just get on with some work now please?

I have no scientific proof but I can categorically assure you that my company gets far more productively out of me at home than it has ever done in the office.

ChocolateCinderToffee · Today 18:35

When I worked in London I used to go in at 7.30 in very hot weather and stay until after the rush hour was over. I appreciate that might not be a solution for you.

Teddybear23 · Today 18:37

People just don’t have the work ethic anymore- I work for the NHS in a hot office but I’m not considering being off sick. I’m going to take a desk fan, drink plenty of water and make the best of it. Worst things have happened!

FlyingSteve · Today 18:40

ChocolateCinderToffee · Today 18:35

When I worked in London I used to go in at 7.30 in very hot weather and stay until after the rush hour was over. I appreciate that might not be a solution for you.

You sound like you enjoy work.

FlyingSteve · Today 18:41

Teddybear23 · Today 18:37

People just don’t have the work ethic anymore- I work for the NHS in a hot office but I’m not considering being off sick. I’m going to take a desk fan, drink plenty of water and make the best of it. Worst things have happened!

More fool you

Teddybear23 · Today 18:45

soonami · Yesterday 12:06

What you did in the 70s and how your parents coped in the war is irrelevant. It’s not a competition or a race to the bottom.
Our summers are getting more extreme, temperatures are rising. That objectively puts more people at risk of ill health directly due to extreme heat. Shall we ignore it because our grandparents had to live off rations?

Did you know the ice caps are actually growing!? They won’t do that if the earth if heating up! It’s all a con to make them money via green taxes! I know my comment won’t be popular but I don’t care😂

Kellph83 · Today 18:46

PinkNBlueBunnies · Yesterday 11:41

Well logically, being underground you shouldn’t be any more affected by surface temperatures than usual so your anxiety about being stuck on a broken underground train is unfounded. But I do get that being above ground will be worrying.

You obviously have never been on the central line tube. On a good day it’s at least 10degrees above the outside temp, so on a 39degree day it’ll be hell.
i work in a school, and they’re closing half days for pupils and teachers (unfortunately I’m neither ) so have to work until 5pm. I’m in an office with AC but then have a 25 min walk home. I’m dreading it if I’m honest

Ilovegrantnicholas · Today 18:47

Google 1976 and stop panicking.

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