When will people realise that pensioners have paid for their state pension.

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Every time there is a debate about the cost of living pensioners get a bashing.
And some have also paid for a private pension.
It's people who have never worked that should be targeted first.
I'm not on about the disabled. It's people who are benefit cheats and have never worked.

I've scrimped and saved to have a private pension. If they means test the state pension I'll simply stop my private pension contributions and spend the money instead. Why should I be penalised for forward thinking when others have just spent their money.

This is why baby boomers should pay wealth taxes in their property wealth

They don’t really have anywhere else to tap now but it will be deeply unpopular

I agree that not everyone should have to go to university, but realistically what other pathways are there for young people apart from some competitive apprenticeships?

Nursing etc requires a degree these days and there is no jobs at the end of it.

And yes some people are spoilt and lazy, but so are some pensioners. No need to tar everyone in a generation with the same brush.

Pension Credit can unlock substantial additional benefits, potentially making some pensioners better off overall than pensioners who receive just State Pension.

Pensions are much more nuanced and complex than "just get".

That’s not how it works. Pensions you receive now and will be receiving until you die do not correlate to the total amount you paid in. Most pensioners currently are grossly overpaid

Clothes were massively more expensive

When are we comparing to? I have amazing leather shoes & bags, cotton dresses, silk tops etc all from the high street from the 90s and 00s. Amazing quality for the price.

They could growing the economy, not endlessly reallocating a limited pool of assets and income. That's what a well run society does.

And some young people ARE spoiled and lazy - how many times have you read on here that they 'can't cope' with the rigours of full-time job, or 'don't want to work'? They also can spend money like water instead of saving

Young feckless people often grow old so these things are not exclusive to one generation.

Well then, I'm not sure why you quoted them to me, as they were irrelevant to the point I was making.

@NorthXNorthWest & how do you grow the economy without money for investment?

Of course living was more expensive. Food is a lot cheaper now. So are white goods/furniture/tvs/clothes etc.

Read what I wrote. I didn't say living isn't getting more expensive, but it was relatively a lot more expensive in the 60s-80s than it is now.

Not sure what that has to do with the triple lock.

I take it you live on £1000 per month? Doesn't leave much when you pay your child care.

They could grow the economy by investing in young people.

Free childcare, free education, better education, lifting children out of poverty, more working from home. Won't happen though, all these things are very unpopular with a big chunk of the electorate.

Remember growth has eluded us for nearly 2 decades, it’s not a quick fix.

@Differentforgirls bit didn’t housing take up a lower portion of someone’s income?

Nope

I did not say it was easy. But I expect people who put themselves forward to run things to be able to do so. And do so not to the detriment of many.
And to have a bit of willpower. Of determination to resolve problems. To find solutions. A bit of imagination.

This is what needs to be done as well as invested in infrastructure, R&D etc but we have invested less into the young and more into the old which is not going to help productivity.

People will vote for things that benefit them so it’s not going to change.

You get free hours.

I am more sorry for elderly people than younger people. The choices the elderly made were based on what was offered. May be you are not aware of the many countries young people emigrate for a better life. They still can and plan for the future. Elderly people can’t.

And then you look at the outcry over means testing winter fuel…the electorate are responsible too. There is a shift to Reform because they are saying we can have this utopia of low taxes, excellent services, low immigration, blah blah.

£1000 per month is over paid?

It isn't contributing to your pension though.

It is when you haven’t paid much tax!

Many people who want to get rid of the NHS do so because they really want to invest in new medical healthcare schemes. That will be needed if the NHS goes.
Ditto new pension schemes.
Your support for the demise of the NHS or apparent support for that led me to request you keep well away from it.
Yes, it needs change. But not in the way many people want it to.

No. Most people rented.