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Another two men sentenced for sexually abusing their children

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Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:36

It's emerged that on the same day that Jamie Varley was found guilty of sexually abusing and murdering a baby he and his partner had adopted, another two men were sentenced for sexually abusing two boys they had fostered.

Incredibly, Matthias T and Steven van H (Rotterdam District Court refused to give their full names) were given suspended sentences due to the psychological nature of their crimes.

They were found guilty of raping two young foster boys (aged 7 and 10). They also filmed themselves doing this and were found with thousands of child sexual abuse pictures and videos.

In addition, they were found guilty of raping their dog.

They were given suspended sentences, 240 hours community service and a pet ban, the children were removed from their care, and that was it. The court decided that because of the bestiality, there must be a psychological issue with them, and they were therefore given a lesser sentence.

I know some will be bitterly opposed to this, but isn't it time we stopped giving fostered and adopted children to two men?

https://www.geenstijl.nl/5190348/pleegvaders-mathias-en-steven-gevangenisstraf

GeenStijl: Powned-pleegvaders Mathias en Steven veroordeeld voor misbruik kinderen en hond, ONTLOPEN GEVANGENISSTRAF

Deze hufters

https://www.geenstijl.nl/5190348/pleegvaders-mathias-en-steven-gevangenisstraf

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/06/2026 08:38

Why the weird link? Is there no Uk news link to this story that doesn’t look super dodgy to click on?

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:40

It's not a weird link, it's a Dutch story, so it's in Dutch, but most browser's can translate it into English for you.

You can also paste the URL into AI and ask for a summary.

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Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:42

Gemini's summary:

This article reports on the sentencing of Steven van H. and Mathias T., two foster fathers who previously appeared on the Dutch television program Verboden Liefde.

The key details of the story include:

The Conviction: The two men have been convicted of abusing their 7 and 10-year-old foster sons, as well as abusing a dog. Their actions came to light during an investigation into a separate abuse case.

The Abuse: Authorities discovered that the men had placed hidden cameras in the boys' bedroom. They used these to film themselves engaging in sexual acts in the doorway while the children slept or played. The children were also abused in the shower, and the acts were recorded. Furthermore, police found 1,700 images of child pornography and 540 images of bestiality involving their dog.

The Sentence: The article highlights local outrage over the sentencing. While the two men spent 4.5 months in pre-trial detention, the judge ruled that they do not have to serve additional immediate prison time. Instead, they received a one-year suspended prison sentence, 240 hours of community service and a five-year ban on owning a dog.

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StillgotmyiPod · 17/06/2026 08:43

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/06/2026 08:38

Why the weird link? Is there no Uk news link to this story that doesn’t look super dodgy to click on?

Based on their other posts I think OP has a bit of a thing about gay couples adopting so is looking around for anything they can find, even if it's a Dutch gossip blog - not a news site - that uses language like "these sick bastards" (which may be correct, but hardly official sounding).

BendoftheBeginning · 17/06/2026 08:46

I’d like a link to a reputable UK source, please.

bronnibro · 17/06/2026 08:48

That's a shocking sentence, can't it be appealed like the case of the rapes , they managed to get the sentence looked at again, but that sentence is not appropriate I don't think no they are very dangerous men and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near them in society

AnonymityAnonymity · 17/06/2026 08:51

This is an horrendous case . As is the baby Preston murder.

But there are countless men in mixed sex couples who abuse their own children. And many men who deliberately target single mothers to get access to their children.

To point the finger at all same sex male couples because of the behaviour of some same sex male couples is not right.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/06/2026 08:52

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:40

It's not a weird link, it's a Dutch story, so it's in Dutch, but most browser's can translate it into English for you.

You can also paste the URL into AI and ask for a summary.

So you want to stop gay couples from adopting worldwide? Or just in Europe? Stopping it in the UK would have stopped this Dutch story.

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:54

StillgotmyiPod · 17/06/2026 08:43

Based on their other posts I think OP has a bit of a thing about gay couples adopting so is looking around for anything they can find, even if it's a Dutch gossip blog - not a news site - that uses language like "these sick bastards" (which may be correct, but hardly official sounding).

Being shocked and upset by what happened to Preston Davey, and wanting to ensure it doesn't happen again, doesn't make someone a bigot. The attitude of calling anyone homophobic may well have led to his murder.

I object to men adopting children on their own as well.

The site is not a gossip one - it's a Dutch news site.

This is the official court report: https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/details?id=ECLI:NL:RBROT:2026:6838

Rechtspraak.nl - Zoeken in uitspraken

Zoeken in uitspraken

https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/details?id=ECLI%3ANL%3ARBROT%3A2026%3A6838

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StillgotmyiPod · 17/06/2026 08:57

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:54

Being shocked and upset by what happened to Preston Davey, and wanting to ensure it doesn't happen again, doesn't make someone a bigot. The attitude of calling anyone homophobic may well have led to his murder.

I object to men adopting children on their own as well.

The site is not a gossip one - it's a Dutch news site.

This is the official court report: https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/details?id=ECLI:NL:RBROT:2026:6838

Geenstijl is not a reputable news site however you try to dress it up. It's had major issues with racism and sexism in the past, is notorious for it's commenter base (who in recent years were posting extremely explicit violent sexual fantasies in the comments sections) and which has faced legal challenges over copyright infringement.

"News site" indeed... I wouldn't trust anything Geenstijl posts as far as I could spit.

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 09:05

@StillgotmyiPod a bit like the Mail then.

coulditbeme2323 · 17/06/2026 09:07

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/06/2026 08:52

So you want to stop gay couples from adopting worldwide? Or just in Europe? Stopping it in the UK would have stopped this Dutch story.

Worldwide.

RedTagAlan · 17/06/2026 09:09

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 08:54

Being shocked and upset by what happened to Preston Davey, and wanting to ensure it doesn't happen again, doesn't make someone a bigot. The attitude of calling anyone homophobic may well have led to his murder.

I object to men adopting children on their own as well.

The site is not a gossip one - it's a Dutch news site.

This is the official court report: https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/details?id=ECLI:NL:RBROT:2026:6838

Quote : "The attitude of calling anyone homophobic may well have led to his murder."

Do you mean the fear of being called homophobic might have led to his murder ?

Trying to understand what you are getting at.

Dollymylove · 17/06/2026 09:11

The risk of being labelled homophobic is EXACTLY the reason why that poor beautiful little man Preston was literally tortured to death. I dont agree with 2 men adopting babies. Babies should not be denied a mother in the name of diversity.
Similarly the rape gangs were free to offend in plain sight for years because the authorities didn't want to be labelled racist

I'll get my coat

coulditbeme2323 · 17/06/2026 09:12

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MyArtfulGreySloth · 17/06/2026 09:14

StillgotmyiPod · 17/06/2026 08:43

Based on their other posts I think OP has a bit of a thing about gay couples adopting so is looking around for anything they can find, even if it's a Dutch gossip blog - not a news site - that uses language like "these sick bastards" (which may be correct, but hardly official sounding).

Wow that’s what you take from this? Jesus 😳

MellowZebra · 17/06/2026 09:16

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In the 1980s someone said that to me when my brother and his partner were considering adoption. I thought we had moved on.

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Persephonia1966 · 17/06/2026 09:25

Often in these cases one person is the most abusive and the other person goes along with it/turns a blind eye/is a secondary offender. The person being sexually abusive is more likely to be the man. It's easy to imagine that a female partner would be more likely to step in and protect the baby, maternal protective instincts and all. Unfortunately that isn't always the case, women protecting their husbands not their baby is a known thing. Female partners can be just as bad for facilitating the abuse, being a co-conspirator or just turning a blind eye and pretending it isn't happening as male partners can be.

So it really isn't a case of gay couples being less safe than straight couples. Most adoptive couples are decent people fortunately the abusive ones are a minority but they do exist and are the reason vetting should be very rigorous and follow up checks should happen. But where there's a need for adoption there's a need foe adoptive parents and foster parents. And there is no greater risk from gay parents as straight parents. I feel very differently aboit surrogacy as thats a differentz deliberately created, situation in a way adoption isn't. But its a different discussion.

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 09:31

AnonymityAnonymity · 17/06/2026 08:51

This is an horrendous case . As is the baby Preston murder.

But there are countless men in mixed sex couples who abuse their own children. And many men who deliberately target single mothers to get access to their children.

To point the finger at all same sex male couples because of the behaviour of some same sex male couples is not right.

I don't think any men should be allowed to adopt or foster unless there are women involved - single men, brothers, gay men etc.

But for the majority of cases it is two gay men.

From the cases we've seen though, it does appear that if the man is an abuser in a straight couple then the woman is more likely to protect the child than the other man is, if his partner (male or female) is an abuser.

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MellowZebra · 17/06/2026 09:31

Persephonia1966 · 17/06/2026 09:25

Often in these cases one person is the most abusive and the other person goes along with it/turns a blind eye/is a secondary offender. The person being sexually abusive is more likely to be the man. It's easy to imagine that a female partner would be more likely to step in and protect the baby, maternal protective instincts and all. Unfortunately that isn't always the case, women protecting their husbands not their baby is a known thing. Female partners can be just as bad for facilitating the abuse, being a co-conspirator or just turning a blind eye and pretending it isn't happening as male partners can be.

So it really isn't a case of gay couples being less safe than straight couples. Most adoptive couples are decent people fortunately the abusive ones are a minority but they do exist and are the reason vetting should be very rigorous and follow up checks should happen. But where there's a need for adoption there's a need foe adoptive parents and foster parents. And there is no greater risk from gay parents as straight parents. I feel very differently aboit surrogacy as thats a differentz deliberately created, situation in a way adoption isn't. But its a different discussion.

Most adoptive couples are decent people fortunately the abusive ones are a minority but they do exist and are the reason vetting should be very rigorous and follow up checks should happen

Exactly. There have been other cases of adoptive parents killing children, sadly. There needs to be a much better follow up system, ir seems.

Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 09:33

RedTagAlan · 17/06/2026 09:09

Quote : "The attitude of calling anyone homophobic may well have led to his murder."

Do you mean the fear of being called homophobic might have led to his murder ?

Trying to understand what you are getting at.

There are claims that social workers ignored evidence of abuse because they didn't want to be called homophobic.

It's bewildering that multiple hospital visits for Preston didn't result in an intervention.

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Fillies4DeclanRice · 17/06/2026 09:36

Persephonia1966 · 17/06/2026 09:25

Often in these cases one person is the most abusive and the other person goes along with it/turns a blind eye/is a secondary offender. The person being sexually abusive is more likely to be the man. It's easy to imagine that a female partner would be more likely to step in and protect the baby, maternal protective instincts and all. Unfortunately that isn't always the case, women protecting their husbands not their baby is a known thing. Female partners can be just as bad for facilitating the abuse, being a co-conspirator or just turning a blind eye and pretending it isn't happening as male partners can be.

So it really isn't a case of gay couples being less safe than straight couples. Most adoptive couples are decent people fortunately the abusive ones are a minority but they do exist and are the reason vetting should be very rigorous and follow up checks should happen. But where there's a need for adoption there's a need foe adoptive parents and foster parents. And there is no greater risk from gay parents as straight parents. I feel very differently aboit surrogacy as thats a differentz deliberately created, situation in a way adoption isn't. But its a different discussion.

Exactly this.

In the cases we've seen of two men abusing their children, it seems every time one of them was much more the abuser, and the other might have been involved but to a significantly lesser degree and, crucially, did nothing to protect the child(ren).

Contrast that with women who behave as whistleblowers when they suspect their partner is abusing their child.

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Persephonia1966 · 17/06/2026 09:38

MellowZebra · 17/06/2026 09:31

Most adoptive couples are decent people fortunately the abusive ones are a minority but they do exist and are the reason vetting should be very rigorous and follow up checks should happen

Exactly. There have been other cases of adoptive parents killing children, sadly. There needs to be a much better follow up system, ir seems.

And also, even for decent adoptive parents as they can be left feeling quite abandoned when issues with the children (who often have had a bad start in life) resurface and there isn't any support. But, finding has been cut in real terms for social services and theres still it's of children in it needing foster and adoptive placements. Which doesn't excuse cases where social services are outright negligent. But more eyes needs more money.