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Class bully seems to keep getting away with it

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Difficulty101 · 15/06/2026 22:43

DC in late primary. Lots of friends and social, but having a rough time with a bully in their class. Other kids also bullied and intimidated by the same kid. Physical violence leading to injuries, plus threats.. We have had meetings with the school. Other parents have. Why don't schools act?

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 11:53

TheHateUGive · 16/06/2026 11:39

I would forget all that and protect your child. Youre leaving them open to being beaten at school.

Forget all these silly school rules and policies and help your child stand up for themselves. Every day you let this continue, they are being damaged by the inaction.

It really depends on the school system/laws in the country. If DC did punch this child he would likely be severely beaten by the older children (possibly not on school grounds) and still risk being penalised by the school for a racist attack, which would harm his chances for grammar school. The bully has been in trouble for racism and since then seems to throw this accusation about a lot.

I am going down the line that the bully is foul, doing it to a lot of people and not worth getting in trouble over. I am not backing off with the school though and DC knows this.

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 11:55

GFYpleasenickybaby · 16/06/2026 11:43

I’m so sorry you and your child are having to deal with that too. It’s so awful isn’t it, especially with aggressive adults compounding the bullying.
People like that genuinely make me sick to my stomach and it makes me so so angry. God help her if our sons end up in the same secondary in a couple of years and either of them have anything to say to my son.

I really hope this is resolved for your child soon without long term emotional damage, it’s so disgusting that the school are allowing it to continue.

It really is grim and ultimately the mother is really harming the child as he will reach an age of criminal responsibility with some appalling values and relationships.

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Yellowpapersun · 16/06/2026 11:57

@JadziaD this was exactly the same when my son was at school. In primary, the same girl bullied some of the other girls and nothing was done. My friend's daughter went home in tears every day of year 5. When they went to senior school, bullying was stamped on immediately. One boy in my son's year was excluded after lots of complaints about his behaviour.

TheHateUGive · 16/06/2026 12:00

Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 11:53

It really depends on the school system/laws in the country. If DC did punch this child he would likely be severely beaten by the older children (possibly not on school grounds) and still risk being penalised by the school for a racist attack, which would harm his chances for grammar school. The bully has been in trouble for racism and since then seems to throw this accusation about a lot.

I am going down the line that the bully is foul, doing it to a lot of people and not worth getting in trouble over. I am not backing off with the school though and DC knows this.

Okay then let your child get beaten up every day until they are miserable because youre more interested in them getting into grammar school than being empowered to protect themselves. They'll have great exam results, and no self confidence. Plus they'll know their mother thought them getting beaten up all the time is better than them sticking up for themselves because their grades are more important.

What a great adult life they'll have!

You're harming your child.

Missey85 · 16/06/2026 12:04

It happens all the time school seem to care more about the bully than the victim my friends daughter attempted suicide due the bullying the schools response was that she's too sensitive and should toughen up 😡😡

madaboutpurple · 16/06/2026 12:07

Can you enrol your child in another school.? You could write to the head of school and tell them you will be contacting local newspapers and television programmes. Schools hate bad publicity so I am sure they will start taking action.

Inmyuggs · 16/06/2026 12:19

TheHateUGive · 16/06/2026 06:10

I wouldnt let my kids be repeatedly physically assaulted at school without defending themselves. From experience, they'll do something about the bully once they have a black eye.

Seriously.
No way would you want your child to hit back or become violent.
How will that ever work.
That puts them inlije with the bullies behaviour as well as in the same level as concern, harming for school to deal with.

aster10 · 16/06/2026 12:28

Is voting with your feet an option? We did it with our private school. For a number of various reasons, but bullying was among them. It’s actually harder at a private school as they need to keep the bully’s money so bullies will not be excluded. My sonin the end bit a well-known bully who was tearing a toy from my son’s hands, we were made to feel like a more guilty party, but we were on the way out already and we apologised and my son made a card and we bought some biscuits for the bully, and they were actually friendly with one another for a couple of weeks while we were at that school still. The other mum did not at all acknowledge her son’s part at all. The school said “ well, there was a disagreement about resources”. Resources, my a**!

The thing I read here - don’t let the bully spoil your life (with police record for example) - is wise. The logic I used with my son - we don’t retaliate with violence at school, otherwise you might unfairly be blamed for the whole thing, just scream like a banshee, get the teacher’s attention! We’ll talk later when you’re older.

I also tell my children about the bullies’ logic - they feel weak so they need others to feel weak so that the bully feels more powerful. Sometimes standing strong to the bully works and they leave you alone. How to do it without “biting back” (so you don’t get a police record) - I don’t know for certain. The best tactic is to avoid people like that. It it doesn’t work - prepare to stay your ground, show that you do not overpower you. But it is exceptionally difficult sometimes. An early lesson that life is not fair.

I will actually watch this threaf for more bits of wisdom!

TheHateUGive · 16/06/2026 12:29

Inmyuggs · 16/06/2026 12:19

Seriously.
No way would you want your child to hit back or become violent.
How will that ever work.
That puts them inlije with the bullies behaviour as well as in the same level as concern, harming for school to deal with.

Yes I'd want my child to hit back hard in the face over getting repeatedly getting hit by someone. Ive told my son to do this. The other kid got a black eye and then the school agreed that they cannot stay in the school and keep assaulting people. My son was suspended for one day. Nobody ever touched him again.

Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:12

TheHateUGive · 16/06/2026 12:00

Okay then let your child get beaten up every day until they are miserable because youre more interested in them getting into grammar school than being empowered to protect themselves. They'll have great exam results, and no self confidence. Plus they'll know their mother thought them getting beaten up all the time is better than them sticking up for themselves because their grades are more important.

What a great adult life they'll have!

You're harming your child.

It is occasional to my DC. Pretty much all the children in the class are being targeted, so there are a lot of incidents. This is the point I made the post as I just cannot understand how the school lets one kid cause so much trouble.

If he was being beaten up constantly I would have removed him after a few weeks. Apart from this lots of friends, happy going to and coming from school unless there has been an incident in which he was involved. Plus we have let him do some extra-curriculars that are a lot of fun for him.

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:20

aster10 · 16/06/2026 12:28

Is voting with your feet an option? We did it with our private school. For a number of various reasons, but bullying was among them. It’s actually harder at a private school as they need to keep the bully’s money so bullies will not be excluded. My sonin the end bit a well-known bully who was tearing a toy from my son’s hands, we were made to feel like a more guilty party, but we were on the way out already and we apologised and my son made a card and we bought some biscuits for the bully, and they were actually friendly with one another for a couple of weeks while we were at that school still. The other mum did not at all acknowledge her son’s part at all. The school said “ well, there was a disagreement about resources”. Resources, my a**!

The thing I read here - don’t let the bully spoil your life (with police record for example) - is wise. The logic I used with my son - we don’t retaliate with violence at school, otherwise you might unfairly be blamed for the whole thing, just scream like a banshee, get the teacher’s attention! We’ll talk later when you’re older.

I also tell my children about the bullies’ logic - they feel weak so they need others to feel weak so that the bully feels more powerful. Sometimes standing strong to the bully works and they leave you alone. How to do it without “biting back” (so you don’t get a police record) - I don’t know for certain. The best tactic is to avoid people like that. It it doesn’t work - prepare to stay your ground, show that you do not overpower you. But it is exceptionally difficult sometimes. An early lesson that life is not fair.

I will actually watch this threaf for more bits of wisdom!

Sorry you have also been here.

We won't as apart from this horror kid DC is really happy and popular, doing well, sporty and good grades, really active with friends, etc. It really isn't classic bullying with one child being mobbed. Just one kid with a massive issue with violent acts and threats, being supported by parents with an appalling attitude.

If we move him the bully would have pushed him out of a nice school where most days he comes home really happy.

I completely agree on not letting the bully spoil your life. In a few years they are all old enough to have police records. The bully and his parent are desperate to be the victims, I suspect to try and get out of trouble.

In my school there would be a suspension after a certain number of incidents and if they continued an expulsion - he would have been gone in a term. No SEN (this is a big issue with disruption at the other school in the catchment), so either there is some awful background none of us know about or the school is completely weak. The policy of mediation just does not work with a serious bully - yes for a squabble between peers, but not for someone aggressive who will retaliate.

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:25

madaboutpurple · 16/06/2026 12:07

Can you enrol your child in another school.? You could write to the head of school and tell them you will be contacting local newspapers and television programmes. Schools hate bad publicity so I am sure they will start taking action.

DC is overall really happy at the school. Plus doing well, with lots of friends. Moving him would likely upset him a lot to leave friends and a teacher he likes behind. If he was bullied constantly absolutely, I would have moved him in weeks.

The post is more my frustration/astonishment that schools just do not act when there is a violent kid. The violent kid is also being done no favours as he will be in a lot of trouble if he does this over a certain age.

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:28

Inmyuggs · 16/06/2026 12:19

Seriously.
No way would you want your child to hit back or become violent.
How will that ever work.
That puts them inlije with the bullies behaviour as well as in the same level as concern, harming for school to deal with.

I suspect the kid is copying older family members, dominating and being violent. I dread to think what his future looks like. The violent kid was in bad a fight with others today and a teacher intervened. DC was shocked as he told me, then explained the cause of this and it was laughable. But obviously serious for the kids involved who do have consequences - one because he was unfairly targeted and did hit back.

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:32

Yellowpapersun · 16/06/2026 11:57

@JadziaD this was exactly the same when my son was at school. In primary, the same girl bullied some of the other girls and nothing was done. My friend's daughter went home in tears every day of year 5. When they went to senior school, bullying was stamped on immediately. One boy in my son's year was excluded after lots of complaints about his behaviour.

So sorry, this is awful. If it was frequent I would remove him. As it is we are trying to give him coping skills to not get dragged into things - don't let an idiot drag you down and harm you.

The violence is aimed at all the boys in the class and very age inappropriate misoginy at the girls. The violent kid apparently has a huge amount of unrestricted screen time. But maybe there is something going on behind the scenes that the other parents don't know about and is why the school don't act.

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Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:36

TheHateUGive · 16/06/2026 12:29

Yes I'd want my child to hit back hard in the face over getting repeatedly getting hit by someone. Ive told my son to do this. The other kid got a black eye and then the school agreed that they cannot stay in the school and keep assaulting people. My son was suspended for one day. Nobody ever touched him again.

I agree if it was just peers and out of school, or even regular an in school (in the UK). We aren't here and it would absolutely trash his school record, he would risk retaliation from older family and so be unsafe out of school, plus risk being accused of racism in school as the mother is desperate for the violent child to be a victim to get out of trouble.

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Tutorpuzzle · 16/06/2026 17:56

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 16/06/2026 11:24

@Difficulty101 , what worked for me in the end was taking my distressed child to our GP and laying it out to them how badly the bullying was affecting my child and asking them to write to the headmaster which they did. The head was not best impressed but it did push the school into tackling the issue. In your case OP this would be even more powerful if several letters from various GPs turned up in quick succession. Good luck!
It would be very interesting to hear from any teachers on here why they never do anything to discipline the bully in these situations but then come down like a tonne of bricks on the bullied child when they finally retaliate.

I have a bully in the class I’m teaching at the moment. Key stage 2. They are manipulative, lies come as simple as breathing, and, without question, they pick on the more vulnerable children. There is no real support from the leadership team (of which there are many). I can only beg parents to take concerted action when this is happening, and not individual action. The teachers will thank you for it.

Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 18:16

Tutorpuzzle · 16/06/2026 17:56

I have a bully in the class I’m teaching at the moment. Key stage 2. They are manipulative, lies come as simple as breathing, and, without question, they pick on the more vulnerable children. There is no real support from the leadership team (of which there are many). I can only beg parents to take concerted action when this is happening, and not individual action. The teachers will thank you for it.

There are a few children with SEN in the year and they are in a hellish situation with the bully. Being bullied or set up/triggered. The manipulation and lies are frightening.

Concerted action here is difficult because of privacy laws. Plus the mother of the bully harasses parents or tries to get others onside whenever something big happens.

I am now documenting everything in writing. Where there is an injury I will send a medical letter. I suspect this is helpful for the teacher, rather than a PITA. Something has to change.

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AliceMcK · 16/06/2026 18:46

Been here on 3 occasions.

DD1 was targeted in year 6, it started in school when she defended some SEN kids she was friends with but went on outside of school and on her phone, (yes I gave my dd a phone in year 6 so she could get use to taking care of it and walk home alone in prep for high school). Another child recorded a bad incident at the park next to her school and other parents called out the bullies. My dd ended up running home and was hit my a car when she ran across the road, she was ok but it could have been much worse.

The same parents who pulled the bullies up took the recordings and sent them around to all the classes parents to call out the behaviour. Dd was too scared to go into school as there were about 5/6 of these kids in her class, all part of the same friend group whose parents were also the cliquey parents. I went into school and called it out, said it wasn’t isolated as I had sent emails on occasion over the years when smaller incidents had happened with 2 of these bullies. I made it clear my dd was not coming back into school until the school had dealt with the bullies. The school ended up getting the whole year in an assembly and called out the behaviour and threatened loosing some end of year 6 privileges. My dd got 2 days out with DH going to the movies and arcades.

Only one parent whose child was involved contacted me. They actually didn’t know me as their child was new to the school, they were appalled and made sure their son apologised genuinely to my dd. Others assured the school punishments at home were being put in place, but never bothered contacting me or asking if my dd was ok.

Second incident was with DD2 year 5 att. There had been lots of rumours about a particular child, I knew who the mum was, part of a group of “rough druggies” yes I know this for a fact. I never had any issues with them, always smiled and polite, none of them had children in my DDs years but the school classes are mixed year groups so sometimes there would be an overlap. Another parent approached me asking if my dd was ok as apparently this boy had hurt my dd. When I asked dd ( she’s not one for talking) she wasn’t sure if it was an accident or on purpose. I emailed the school for clarification and pointed out I knew there had been a lot of talk about this boy and just wanted to make sure I didn’t need to worry.

The school invited me in, they had known me many years and knew I wasn’t going to blindly believe gossip but wanted to ensure me the incident they believed was an accident, my dd was one of the children this boy liked and he was genuinely upset he’d hurt dd. The other incidents the school were managing and the parents were actively engaging with the school.

Third incident dd2 in year 6. DDs best friend had another close friend who didn’t like a 3rd person group, she’d regularly try pushing dd out. I hadn’t realised things at school were getting nasty (dd doesn't talk remember) until I got a call asking me to pick her up as she woulnt stop crying and none of the teachers could get out of her what was wrong. I eventually got out of her that she was not only being pushed out but this other girl had teamed up with the class bully and were targeting dd. I spoke to best friends mum and we sorted our 2 girls out. Other mums were a different story. Anyway one day again another parent asked if dd was alright, I asked why and it turned out this other girl was messaging really horrible things about my dd to anyone she could, stuff like because my dd goes to the park with a boy in her class she must be shagging him in the tress etc.. it was not just about dd but also about our family, stuff a child would only know from listening to adults talk ie her parents.

I emailed the school and the next morning at drop off the HT and school counsellor were waiting for me as they knew I would turn up. I made it very clear I didn’t care what they had to do they were keeping that girl away from my dd, if they even tried to do the let’s hug it out apologise and shake hands shit I would hit the roof as it was a bunch of crap and they were not guilting my child into forgiving any of this shit ( yes I did swear) I also said it better not be my dd that was isolated and punished because of the other girls behaviour. To the schools credit they separated the girl and she was kept inside during breaks and not allowed in any group activities with my dd and my dd was paired up with who she wanted every time. Again shit parents whose responses were well they are just 10 year old girls…

Im not one of those annoying parents, I will back the school up if my child has played up, I am friendly and always happy to help at school but I will never stand by and let my child be bullied. All my DDs know and have seen me fighting their corner when it’s been needed. At the end of the day I’m my children’s voice, I need to speak for them until they can speak for themselves. Yes sometimes hugging and forgiving works in school squabbles but full on bullying needs dealing with properly.

Every incident OP you record, email the school as it’s recorded and they can’t forget it’s happened. And turn up every time demanding what’s going to happen what are they doing to keep your child safe. We are in a position to keep our DDs home if need be, believe me schools hate this as it effects their attendance rates.

aster10 · 16/06/2026 21:16

Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:25

DC is overall really happy at the school. Plus doing well, with lots of friends. Moving him would likely upset him a lot to leave friends and a teacher he likes behind. If he was bullied constantly absolutely, I would have moved him in weeks.

The post is more my frustration/astonishment that schools just do not act when there is a violent kid. The violent kid is also being done no favours as he will be in a lot of trouble if he does this over a certain age.

Schools can be inept. I guess our first school was inept. The head might be just… not savvy really. Not a lot of money. (Or fear to lose parents’ money in the case of private schools). No time to think about these things outside the box. No time/leadership skills to rethink the policy.

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 05:22

Difficulty101 · 16/06/2026 17:36

I agree if it was just peers and out of school, or even regular an in school (in the UK). We aren't here and it would absolutely trash his school record, he would risk retaliation from older family and so be unsafe out of school, plus risk being accused of racism in school as the mother is desperate for the violent child to be a victim to get out of trouble.

Stoo worrying about his school record and worry about his personal safety. Or stop complaining and accept you are ok with your child being hit at school because you think grades and being known as a good boy are more important than his physical and mental wellbeing.

Difficulty101 · 17/06/2026 09:30

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 05:22

Stoo worrying about his school record and worry about his personal safety. Or stop complaining and accept you are ok with your child being hit at school because you think grades and being known as a good boy are more important than his physical and mental wellbeing.

I am not just worrying about grades. I want DC to stay off the radar of the bully and family.

When someone does fight back the bully escalates massively, older peers pile on (continuing the threat out of school) and then the mother complains it was because of a racist attack. I do not want DS badly injured, not being able to be out safely with his friends and then on top of it risking a school record for a racist attack.

Yes if it was straightforward peer to peer punching back may work. Not against a much older group.

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aster10 · 17/06/2026 11:46

What about going to the papers, councillors and the MP? If it looks like the school is gradually taken over by a gang composed of this family and their pals? Given that (in light of the recent events) there is pushback against unfounded allegations of racist attacks?

You see, to say that your child is very happy - it seems that not entirely happy, there’s quite a big depressing factor at school it seems. You see, if there’s quite a big risk of being unsafe at school, being unsafe on the streets and getting a school/police record, that’s beginning to sound a bit bonkers, and something that the council and MP should be VERY interested in. Especially if you draw your attention to the recent events and how police were negligent out of fear of appearing racist.

MsFogi · 17/06/2026 11:53

Is it a private school OP? At the dds' private junior school a few bullied girls ended up leaving (suggestion from school that they do so for other spurious reasons) because the bully's parents made regular large donations to the school.

Difficulty101 · 17/06/2026 13:23

aster10 · 17/06/2026 11:46

What about going to the papers, councillors and the MP? If it looks like the school is gradually taken over by a gang composed of this family and their pals? Given that (in light of the recent events) there is pushback against unfounded allegations of racist attacks?

You see, to say that your child is very happy - it seems that not entirely happy, there’s quite a big depressing factor at school it seems. You see, if there’s quite a big risk of being unsafe at school, being unsafe on the streets and getting a school/police record, that’s beginning to sound a bit bonkers, and something that the council and MP should be VERY interested in. Especially if you draw your attention to the recent events and how police were negligent out of fear of appearing racist.

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Luckily DC is still happy, I want him to handle the bully without fighting back to avoid the escalation and risks that just go with it. He is happier since always walking away as he hasn't been punished by the school for a while - we are taking the approach that the boy is horrible and not worth getting in trouble over. I wrote about the risk of escalation with the boy and his family explaining why I am not encouraging DChit back.

We aren't in the UK so there is a massive issue with privacy laws, but yes in the UK I would do this. It is a Balkan family and I really do not want to tangle with them as there is no resolution, just an automatic fight back. I should say I also have some lovely friends from the region.

I am now documenting everything in writing and will get Drs letters, plus also request these are sent to the school by the GP if anything happens. This way it should also reduce conflict risk for DC in school, as I explained the retaliation in writing and asked for DC to be protected from it. The bully has plenty of victims he persecutes continuously, horribly as some are SEN. Allowing it to continue is also doing the bully no favours as there may be something serious driving it. It is just appalling and I cannot understand why the school has not taken the road of suspension and expulsion, but this doesn't seem to happen anymore.

The post is more my frustration with the system, where the victims are punished for trying to defend themselves and this system of reconciliation which can lead to retaliation. Rather than a post about constant harassment of DC in which case believe me he would have been out of there in weeks.

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Difficulty101 · 17/06/2026 13:24

MsFogi · 17/06/2026 11:53

Is it a private school OP? At the dds' private junior school a few bullied girls ended up leaving (suggestion from school that they do so for other spurious reasons) because the bully's parents made regular large donations to the school.

No, local school in a country with a grammar system. Luckily a small class and otherwise mostly nice kids. DC has a lot of friends. Issues with the bully every few weeks though getting less frequent and now every month or so as he is becoming more and more boring by not responding. For some it is daily and they probably need to move if the school cannot put a stop to this. Just why can this go on unchecked.

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