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Gaz Oakley no longer vegan and the backlash he has received is ridiculous

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Magicalbroomstick · 11/06/2026 16:57

Gaz Oakley is no longer vegan. I can’t believe the amount of backlash he has received. He has deleted his instagram. People saying he was never really vegan.
I’m a vegetarian and was a vegan for 3 years when I was breastfeeding my oldest, then realised I couldn’t live without cheese!

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familyicons · 17/06/2026 07:46

I've never heard of this man. why would I care what he eats?

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/06/2026 08:01

Magicalbroomstick · 11/06/2026 17:35

I understand that, but that is company not a person. I do like Linda McCartney food, for years was the best for convenience.
Maybe the older I have got I am more live and let live. I got a lot of teasing /jokes over the years especially in the
early 80’s when there was nothing.

The 'live and let live' thing is definitely the key here. No reasonable person objects to somebody choosing their own diet that works for them on however many levels; but it's the people who preach, judge and criticise others who make different choices that are the problem.

If you're previously judged people for not adhering to your standards, and then you stop adhering to those same standards, you 100% deserve to be called out on it and to have the judgment thrown right back at you.

If you quietly make your own choice for yourself, then you later decide to move to a different choice for yourself, crack on and all the best to you.

ClaudiaWankleman · 17/06/2026 10:01

familyicons · 17/06/2026 07:46

I've never heard of this man. why would I care what he eats?

Then the thread isn't for you? Your comment adds absolutely nothing to the discussion and it doesn't make you better than any of the rest of us just because you are ignorant of a singular social media personality.

Why would we care whether you do or don't know him?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

familyicons · 17/06/2026 10:30

Well you obviously do! 😀

Magicalbroomstick · 17/06/2026 13:04

I have never preached to anyone. Have given my reasons but only when pressed. Most people don’t even know I’m vegetarian unless we are getting food together. And even then only if I ask about vegetarian options or you ask me why I’m not having fish or meat!
But I’m a dreadful vegetarian as I have always cooked meat and fish for my family. Try to buy organic etc.

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SinuousTendrils · 17/06/2026 13:19

DramaAndBullshit · 17/06/2026 07:45

“Ethical veganism is based on facts - animals are harmed, land is razed, habitats are destroyed, water is wasted. These facts do not change.”

You do know that you’re actually describing arable farming here too, don’t you?

“Many people abandon being vegan for many reasons, but in doing so they are choosing to turn a blind eye to the facts that made veganism a sensible choice.”

Veganism is an idealist performance, not a sensible choice. It’s impossible to exist on this planet and have no impact on animals, and it’s also impossible to eat a nutritionally complete vegan diet without supplements. Vegans either realise this and become omnivores again or end up with various health issues as they age. Those are the real facts.

Not facts. Your opinions. It doesn't make them any more valid than antone else's by labeling them as facts!

ClaudiaWankleman · 17/06/2026 13:43

familyicons · 17/06/2026 10:30

Well you obviously do! 😀

I care about the fact you think the content of your irrelevance post had to be seen publicly. It's narcissism.

DramaAndBullshit · 17/06/2026 14:00

SinuousTendrils · 17/06/2026 13:19

Not facts. Your opinions. It doesn't make them any more valid than antone else's by labeling them as facts!

“Ethical veganism is based on facts - animals are harmed, land is razed, habitats are destroyed, water is wasted. These facts do not change.”

You do know that you’re actually describing arable farming here too, don’t you?

Fact.

Agriculture, even growing plant protein, involves clearing land, destroying wildlife habitats and causes the death of significant numbers of animals, birds, insects and fish,

Fact.

It’s impossible to exist on this planet and have no impact on animals, and it’s also impossible to eat a nutritionally complete vegan diet without supplements.

None of this is my opinion. You can try to dismiss and discredit it by saying it’s opinion, but it’s not. It’s facts.

If you want to live a vegan lifestyle, go ahead, but don’t try to pretend it’s ecologically, or ethically pure, or nutritionally complete.

SinuousTendrils · 17/06/2026 14:07

DramaAndBullshit · 17/06/2026 14:00

“Ethical veganism is based on facts - animals are harmed, land is razed, habitats are destroyed, water is wasted. These facts do not change.”

You do know that you’re actually describing arable farming here too, don’t you?

Fact.

Agriculture, even growing plant protein, involves clearing land, destroying wildlife habitats and causes the death of significant numbers of animals, birds, insects and fish,

Fact.

It’s impossible to exist on this planet and have no impact on animals, and it’s also impossible to eat a nutritionally complete vegan diet without supplements.

None of this is my opinion. You can try to dismiss and discredit it by saying it’s opinion, but it’s not. It’s facts.

If you want to live a vegan lifestyle, go ahead, but don’t try to pretend it’s ecologically, or ethically pure, or nutritionally complete.

The Vegan Society advocates for causing as little harm to animals as possible, with the acknowlegement that causing no harm is nigh on impossible. Fact.
Farming plants causes far less harm as many more plants are required to feed animals that humans eat than the humans eating the plants. Fact.
Veganism, done with correct nutritional information, has significant health benefits, lengthens the life span and reducing animal consumption has been identified as one of the key elements in tackling our ecological/environmental crisis. Fact.

ClaudiaWankleman · 17/06/2026 16:05

SinuousTendrils · 17/06/2026 14:07

The Vegan Society advocates for causing as little harm to animals as possible, with the acknowlegement that causing no harm is nigh on impossible. Fact.
Farming plants causes far less harm as many more plants are required to feed animals that humans eat than the humans eating the plants. Fact.
Veganism, done with correct nutritional information, has significant health benefits, lengthens the life span and reducing animal consumption has been identified as one of the key elements in tackling our ecological/environmental crisis. Fact.

I'm not convinced it is a fact that veganism makes you live longer. There is a lot of evidence that Japanese diets make you live longer and that's definitely not vegan.

Can you establish it as a fact?

SinuousTendrils · 17/06/2026 17:54

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/vegan-meat-life-expectancy-eggs-dairy-research-a7168036.html

Though I'm sure you can google a counter study. Less animal intake certainly improves health in most humans. I was being a bit faecitious with the use of 'fact' because i thought it was silly. However, my understanding is the consensus is plant based/vegan diets result in better health outcomes than typically western diets.. you may well be right about Japanese diets but eating fish at the levels humans demand is catastrophic for ecology....now that is a fact!

Why a vegan diet can make you live longer

Every three per cent increase in calories from plant protein was found to reduce risk of death by 10 per cent

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/vegan-meat-life-expectancy-eggs-dairy-research-a7168036.html

ClaudiaWankleman · 17/06/2026 20:12

SinuousTendrils · 17/06/2026 17:54

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/vegan-meat-life-expectancy-eggs-dairy-research-a7168036.html

Though I'm sure you can google a counter study. Less animal intake certainly improves health in most humans. I was being a bit faecitious with the use of 'fact' because i thought it was silly. However, my understanding is the consensus is plant based/vegan diets result in better health outcomes than typically western diets.. you may well be right about Japanese diets but eating fish at the levels humans demand is catastrophic for ecology....now that is a fact!

That study doesn’t even support your conclusion though. It shows a correlation in the amount of protein from plants and longer life. It doesn’t seem to conclude on a vegan diet at all. Omnivores also get protein from plants. How did it consider people who eat more/ less protein overall etc.

familyicons · 19/06/2026 21:24

ClaudiaWankleman · 17/06/2026 13:43

I care about the fact you think the content of your irrelevance post had to be seen publicly. It's narcissism.

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