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‘It’s not a nice world to bring children into’ - Births fall to the lowest level in 50 years - BBC article

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OneBusyFinch · 03/06/2026 10:35

Just reading this article and don’t think I’ve seen a thread on it.

More people are having fewer children - and it’s not just the UK, the data shows it’s a worldwide trend. Interesting reading the different perspectives.

A photograph of Stacey Waring wearing a red top standing in a barn. She is by herself wearing dark sunglasses on her head and smiling at the camera.

'It's not a nice world out there': Birth rates hit a 50-year low

Live births in England and Wales are at their lowest since 1977, while the age of first-time mothers has also risen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgzdq23xpgo

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WhatNoRaisins · 04/06/2026 09:39

Fizzybluewater · 04/06/2026 09:01

It's shit parenting, sorry, lack of parenting from some people that is the problem.
Kids running around screaming, causing problems while the 'entitled parents' are messing about with their phones and don't give a toss what their entitled ferals are doing. I.e annoying everyone else. I love my kids but I find some peoples kids annoying for the above reasons. Most kids are okay, laugh, play etc it's the unruly, disrespectful ones that are my bug bear.
Thankfully where I live we don't see too many of them.

I expect this hands off approach probably worked ok when it was normal and expected for other adults to bollock the feral kids when they misbehaved. I've heard parents on here claim that no other adult should even be allowed to speak to their child without going through them.

yonem · 04/06/2026 09:44

Fizzybluewater · 04/06/2026 09:01

It's shit parenting, sorry, lack of parenting from some people that is the problem.
Kids running around screaming, causing problems while the 'entitled parents' are messing about with their phones and don't give a toss what their entitled ferals are doing. I.e annoying everyone else. I love my kids but I find some peoples kids annoying for the above reasons. Most kids are okay, laugh, play etc it's the unruly, disrespectful ones that are my bug bear.
Thankfully where I live we don't see too many of them.

Of course some children are badly parented and annoying, but that has always been the case and isn’t really what I’m talking about - there are more people who are completely intolerant of normal child behaviour. I don’t think there have always been so many people who don’t think children belong in society and would prefer to see them replaced by dogs.

Flyingkitez · 04/06/2026 10:07

Having children is a choice. I chose to have less than I would have liked due to cost and life balance. The nurse with her camper seems a strange example plenty of people travel and work with children. I personally feel the world is a different place now to when I had my children over 12 years ago. I would think twice as somehow it seems a scarier and harder place. Yes as a nation we seem to have become more materialistic and sadly I think that has had a huge impact on upbringing.

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TheSassyOpalMember · 04/06/2026 17:11

I actually have had some younger colleagues say to me they do want kids but worry about the amount of SEN these days and worry they wouldn't cope if the child had some issues.

scalt · 04/06/2026 17:53

TheSassyOpalMember · 04/06/2026 17:11

I actually have had some younger colleagues say to me they do want kids but worry about the amount of SEN these days and worry they wouldn't cope if the child had some issues.

This was my thinking as well, as a teenager and young adult. I’ve worked and volunteered with SEN children, and I have seen how hard it can be for the parents. The possibility of this was one thing which deterred me from becoming a parent.

Wellywanda3 · 04/06/2026 18:16

whirlyhead · 03/06/2026 12:12

I'm in my 50s now, but even in my 20s having children made no sense to me, socially or environmentally, so I didn't have any. Also, it looks absolutely no fun and a great deal of stress! I appreciate we need children to support older people, but fewer children born now will lead to fewer pensioners in the future so at some stage it will even out (with a few decades of misery!)

We really need to embrace immigration as there are plenty of people in the world already, with more people likely to become environmental migrants in the future, so we just need to shuffle people around.

Gosh that’s a really simplistic view. Did it ever occur to you that those ‘immigrants’ may not share your values or beliefs? However did you think your values get passed down from one generation to another? I find your viewpoint very shortsighted and worrying.

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