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Does this woman have no decency??

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somanychristmaslights · 29/05/2026 18:22

I really thought I believed in letting women do whatever they want to and trying to see things from their point of view. But I just can’t understand Bonnie Blue for her “baby shower” plans… https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DHqdeB6ed/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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VeganSteakAndFries · 30/05/2026 07:43

Sweetbeansandmochi · 30/05/2026 01:06

Surely this sparks safeguarding thresholds somewhere that will result in the immediate removal of her child following birth.

The men, this plan, it actually causes me to feel a disturbed disquiet in my spirit. It is so beast-like.

You would bloody hope so!!!

WilCh · 30/05/2026 07:43

I feel 🤢 there’s no need!
sick & twisted

Samysungy · 30/05/2026 08:13

likelysuspect · 30/05/2026 07:19

You said this

If she is mentally ill and acting without her own autonomy and some magical force in her brain making her do it, then all these men are raping her as she knows not what she does.

Which is what I was responding to. You equated being mentally ill, with it resulting in her not knowing what she is doing and therefore the acts being rape

Having a mental illness (which she has not got), would not result necessarily in someone not having capacity to consent

I was saying...is this what you

Try reading it again now you understand....

Mental illness labels are used purposely to excuse someone from being responsible for their actions....

E.g. he abused someone because he was abused himself so he doesnt know

She has ADHD so cant help it....

Or it is used to label someone as having no capacity...e.g.

She is mentally ill so dont believe a word she says. ..

IsthataNo · 30/05/2026 08:18

So she's having an actual baby ? Does she know who the dad is ?

She needs urgent intervention and someone explaining to her that it's about her DC now and how they will feel when they read this about mum ?

IsthataNo · 30/05/2026 08:22

SproutingBee · 30/05/2026 00:16

This is the truth of it that most women are not ready to accept and instead, defensively blame the woman.

I agree and we see it time and time again.
Even the taliban is men living out the dream like that man Fritzl who imprisoned and rape his own daughter.

We are all in the jungle still we are all animals except we have sofas TV and cars.

Whyohwhy321 · 30/05/2026 08:28

AlternateLook · 29/05/2026 22:58

No, it's those fathers, boyfriends, husbands, colleagues, brothers, neighbours, and uncles. It's certainly not me, so stop tarring us all with the same brush.

Nope. They walk amongst us. They don't have 2 heads and a label on their face. We sit next to them on the bus, they're the policemen who turn up when you've been robbed, the guy running the corner shop, the local vicar, the plumber who turns up to fix the shower, the colleague we work on projects with. The people who think it's someone else's son/father/brother/husband could not be more wrong.

BreezyMintHiker · 30/05/2026 08:32

She’s revolting. I don’t see why people are so keen to assume she’s mentally ill. Plenty of people are perfectly sane but vile. Why can’t she be one of them? What about her mother? She must be mentally ill too then, right? Or is she just disgusting too? I think that’s more plausible.

If she’s really pregnant the child needs to be taken away at birth.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 30/05/2026 08:38

Idlewilder · 30/05/2026 06:49

This. I guess she has the right to do what she likes with her own body, however abhorrent those choices are. But she doesn't have the right to involve her unborn child in sexual activity. What a legacy for that child to process as they get older. Sadly, I think being taken into care may be the best thing for the child. Though they would still have the right to know their parent in future. What she is planning is cruel and selfish and cannot be undone. 😢

"But she doesn't have the right to involve her unborn child in sexual activity." What she's doing is horrible, but surely this quote would mean that any pregnant woman having sex or "sexual activity" was committing a child sex offence? Pregnant women are allowed to have sex, even disgusting and risky sex.

SproutingBee · 30/05/2026 08:40

JillyComeLately · 30/05/2026 00:48

The men who queue up to urinate on and have sex with a willing pregnant woman are vile, as is she.
I lay next to a decent man in bed, I,m sorry you can't say the same.

How sure are you?

IsthataNo · 30/05/2026 09:02

AndyBurnhamForPM · 30/05/2026 06:21

It might not be for you or me but you can't pick and choose: it's her body, her choice and sex work is work.

These are both non-negotiable, regardless of how prudish you (or admittedly I) are.

Her baby has no choice and is not only being out at risk here physically but also mentally when older.

IsthataNo · 30/05/2026 09:05

@StartingFreshFor2026 but it's being published so it goes beyond that.
Look at Brooklyn beckham .

Sweetbeansandmochi · 30/05/2026 09:10

StartingFreshFor2026 · 30/05/2026 08:38

"But she doesn't have the right to involve her unborn child in sexual activity." What she's doing is horrible, but surely this quote would mean that any pregnant woman having sex or "sexual activity" was committing a child sex offence? Pregnant women are allowed to have sex, even disgusting and risky sex.

I am not so sure about the reasoning here - many many men pissing on you and then penetrating you does not seem on equal footing with a pregnant woman having consenting relations (with husband, boyfriend even one night stand).

So you are correct there is a gradient of risk to the sexual activity that goes from within a range of ‘typical’ and outside there are additional harm/risk factors that do warrant attention and intervention. Otherwise no one ‘should’ intervene on anything, because then we get into the realm of the individuals ‘rights’ are always affirmed regardless of the harm they cause the individual or others.

singthing · 30/05/2026 09:16

Whyohwhy321 · 30/05/2026 08:28

Nope. They walk amongst us. They don't have 2 heads and a label on their face. We sit next to them on the bus, they're the policemen who turn up when you've been robbed, the guy running the corner shop, the local vicar, the plumber who turns up to fix the shower, the colleague we work on projects with. The people who think it's someone else's son/father/brother/husband could not be more wrong.

A quick google says that the men convicted of raping Gisele Pelicot were indeed the most normal of normal:

"The 50 co-accused men represented a wide variety of professions across working-class and middle-class French society. Defense lawyers noted they came from all walks of life, earning them the nickname Monsieur-Tout-Le-Monde (Mr Everyman).

These professions included:

Medical & Care: Nurses
Emergency & Public Service: Firefighters, prison wardens, and soldiers
Media: A local journalist
Trades: Carpenters, tilers, construction workers, and farmworkers
Transportation: Lorry/truck drivers
Commerce & Administration: Supermarket workers, estate agents, and I.T. experts"

Not my Nigel is a bold statement to make when you stop to understand the scale of the problem.

Strawcolouredx · 30/05/2026 09:20

singthing · 30/05/2026 09:16

A quick google says that the men convicted of raping Gisele Pelicot were indeed the most normal of normal:

"The 50 co-accused men represented a wide variety of professions across working-class and middle-class French society. Defense lawyers noted they came from all walks of life, earning them the nickname Monsieur-Tout-Le-Monde (Mr Everyman).

These professions included:

Medical & Care: Nurses
Emergency & Public Service: Firefighters, prison wardens, and soldiers
Media: A local journalist
Trades: Carpenters, tilers, construction workers, and farmworkers
Transportation: Lorry/truck drivers
Commerce & Administration: Supermarket workers, estate agents, and I.T. experts"

Not my Nigel is a bold statement to make when you stop to understand the scale of the problem.

Yep and no doubt most of those men were married/partnered with kids.

Strawcolouredx · 30/05/2026 09:25

I’ve never understood why people feel safe around a man when he says he’s eg, a married father of two who works as a doctor/plumber/gardener. It’s just so dim.

I used to watch a lot of true crime and it would drive me mad when they’d say “it was such a shock to find out he did X and Y because he’d be the last person you’d expect as a married father who worked in the same job for 15 years”

SproutingBee · 30/05/2026 09:45

singthing · 30/05/2026 09:16

A quick google says that the men convicted of raping Gisele Pelicot were indeed the most normal of normal:

"The 50 co-accused men represented a wide variety of professions across working-class and middle-class French society. Defense lawyers noted they came from all walks of life, earning them the nickname Monsieur-Tout-Le-Monde (Mr Everyman).

These professions included:

Medical & Care: Nurses
Emergency & Public Service: Firefighters, prison wardens, and soldiers
Media: A local journalist
Trades: Carpenters, tilers, construction workers, and farmworkers
Transportation: Lorry/truck drivers
Commerce & Administration: Supermarket workers, estate agents, and I.T. experts"

Not my Nigel is a bold statement to make when you stop to understand the scale of the problem.

The ‘not my Darren’ brigade aren’t ready to hear it. They need cognitive dissonance to survive.

singthing · 30/05/2026 09:45

Strawcolouredx · 30/05/2026 09:20

Yep and no doubt most of those men were married/partnered with kids.

And yet the thread is titled "Does this woman have no decency??"

Those poor innocent men, taken advantage of by the evil indecent BB <eyeroll>

AlternateLook · 30/05/2026 09:47

Dollysleftnip · 30/05/2026 07:34

With good reason tbh

Don't take it out on every man, though.

SproutingBee · 30/05/2026 09:53

AlternateLook · 30/05/2026 09:47

Don't take it out on every man, though.

Aww, you’re right. I’ll start my apology letters today.

AlternateLook · 30/05/2026 09:58

SproutingBee · 30/05/2026 09:53

Aww, you’re right. I’ll start my apology letters today.

No need for that. It should come from within...

singthing · 30/05/2026 10:11

AlternateLook · 30/05/2026 09:47

Don't take it out on every man, though.

Can you let us know which ones are the problem then please?

Have you organised for them to wear special badges marking them as predators? Or started a campaign about it that men and women can join in with?

Or are you just peeved that women can't instinctively tell that you specifically are A Nice Guy and you want us to repent for that?

Idlewilder · 30/05/2026 10:12

StartingFreshFor2026 · 30/05/2026 08:38

"But she doesn't have the right to involve her unborn child in sexual activity." What she's doing is horrible, but surely this quote would mean that any pregnant woman having sex or "sexual activity" was committing a child sex offence? Pregnant women are allowed to have sex, even disgusting and risky sex.

I think this is substantively different to the perfectly normal act of having sex while pregnant. Because the act is documented and public, and will forever be associated with Bonnie Blue's first child. So the child is being forced to participate in something and has no right to anonymity.

It's truly unbelievable when you think of all the well known celebrity offspring who have been screwed up by their parents' fame. So unbelievable, I'm hoping it's not actually going to happen and the whole thing has just been another bid for attention.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 30/05/2026 10:13

IsthataNo · 30/05/2026 09:05

@StartingFreshFor2026 but it's being published so it goes beyond that.
Look at Brooklyn beckham .

Sorry, I don't understand.

SproutingBee · 30/05/2026 10:16

AlternateLook · 30/05/2026 09:58

No need for that. It should come from within...

Like their depraved sexual urges, you mean?

I don’t think you and I will be queuing up to urinate on a pregnant women so all our counterparts can watch the video and masturbate.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 30/05/2026 10:18

Sweetbeansandmochi · 30/05/2026 09:10

I am not so sure about the reasoning here - many many men pissing on you and then penetrating you does not seem on equal footing with a pregnant woman having consenting relations (with husband, boyfriend even one night stand).

So you are correct there is a gradient of risk to the sexual activity that goes from within a range of ‘typical’ and outside there are additional harm/risk factors that do warrant attention and intervention. Otherwise no one ‘should’ intervene on anything, because then we get into the realm of the individuals ‘rights’ are always affirmed regardless of the harm they cause the individual or others.

I meant that the unborn child is not being sexually abused or "exposed" by any serial activity to their pregnant mother. There us no sexual harm to the unborn child although there are health risks. There are health risks with lots of things in pregnancy.

I am 100% with you though that this is very different to normal sexual activity, including one night stands though. It is extreme, degrading, bad for women, and just all round not good.