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Thread 50 Starmer : Το ταξίδι είναι η ανταμοιβή

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DuncinToffee · 26/05/2026 17:12

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placemats · Yesterday 17:42

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 12:42

I wonder where Healy thinks the money should come from. Is he thinking welfare cuts by any chance?

John Healy is 66 years old. He's certainly not going to in contention as a future Prime Minister.

placemats · Yesterday 17:46

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 17:34

A bit more of the article - you can sign up for two free ones a month. At least she’s not going to stand candidates down. Hilarious she thinks this is the most left wing government ever - wait until she hears about Attlee.

Badenoch says the Tories could win and claims there is a ‘high chance’ she will become prime minister. But asked explicitly whether she would be prepared to put Farage into No. 10 if he fell short of a majority, she made it clear the answer is likely yes, as long as he pursues conservative policies: ‘This country cannot have another left-wing government. This is the most left-wing parliament we have ever had.’

The one caveat is that she thinks some of what Reform wants to do fails that test. ‘Reform has quite a lot of left-wing ideas. They want more benefits. They want more nationalisation. They want the big state. They just want to be in charge of it.’ But Badenoch implied she would accept a confidence and supply deal to ‘deliver a conservative agenda’, That quite literally means a deal to back a government in a confidence motion or on a budget. It means the other party can withhold support on policies they don’t support.

However, Badenoch explicitly ruled out standing candidates down or an arrangement to target resources so the two parties could focus on different seats before an election. ‘We don’t need to do a pact… deals, non-aggression pacts. These things end up falling apart anyway. I’m just saying. No. It’s just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.’ As Theresa May once said, remind you of anyone?

But the proof that she is prepared to do deals with likeminded politicians comes with her admission that she already has a casual arrangement with Rupert Lowe, the leader of Restore Britain, who took a Tory seat on the public accounts committee. ‘Rupert Lowe wants to cut spending in a way that Nigel Farage doesn’t,’ she explains.

Asked if she would accept Lowe as a Tory one day, she says: ‘I don’t think I would go that far.’ But she adds: ‘I respect the fact that he turns up for work, which Nigel Farage doesn’t do. He does policy. He doesn’t run away.’ Similarly, Rosie Duffield, the former Labour MP, who shares Badenoch’s views on trans rights, was also gifted a Tory slot on a select committee.

The straw clutching is getting seriously out of hand now.

If I was to share a conspiracy view, it would be that Badenoch is there to destroy the Tory Party.

SerendipityJane · Yesterday 17:50

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 17:42

Joking aside, Badenoch is going down a very odd path. Or a slippery slope.

Well calling Reform left wing is ... interesting.

However the rainbow of right wing grifters falling out with each other is not to be laughed at, but encouraged.

Meanwhile, for those who remember the Brexit Arms, you are cordially invited to a calming pint at the Frog and Lettuce

Thread 50 Starmer : Το ταξίδι είναι η ανταμοιβή
MsJinks · Yesterday 17:51

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 17:34

A bit more of the article - you can sign up for two free ones a month. At least she’s not going to stand candidates down. Hilarious she thinks this is the most left wing government ever - wait until she hears about Attlee.

Badenoch says the Tories could win and claims there is a ‘high chance’ she will become prime minister. But asked explicitly whether she would be prepared to put Farage into No. 10 if he fell short of a majority, she made it clear the answer is likely yes, as long as he pursues conservative policies: ‘This country cannot have another left-wing government. This is the most left-wing parliament we have ever had.’

The one caveat is that she thinks some of what Reform wants to do fails that test. ‘Reform has quite a lot of left-wing ideas. They want more benefits. They want more nationalisation. They want the big state. They just want to be in charge of it.’ But Badenoch implied she would accept a confidence and supply deal to ‘deliver a conservative agenda’, That quite literally means a deal to back a government in a confidence motion or on a budget. It means the other party can withhold support on policies they don’t support.

However, Badenoch explicitly ruled out standing candidates down or an arrangement to target resources so the two parties could focus on different seats before an election. ‘We don’t need to do a pact… deals, non-aggression pacts. These things end up falling apart anyway. I’m just saying. No. It’s just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.’ As Theresa May once said, remind you of anyone?

But the proof that she is prepared to do deals with likeminded politicians comes with her admission that she already has a casual arrangement with Rupert Lowe, the leader of Restore Britain, who took a Tory seat on the public accounts committee. ‘Rupert Lowe wants to cut spending in a way that Nigel Farage doesn’t,’ she explains.

Asked if she would accept Lowe as a Tory one day, she says: ‘I don’t think I would go that far.’ But she adds: ‘I respect the fact that he turns up for work, which Nigel Farage doesn’t do. He does policy. He doesn’t run away.’ Similarly, Rosie Duffield, the former Labour MP, who shares Badenoch’s views on trans rights, was also gifted a Tory slot on a select committee.

When did Reform start wanting to increase benefits? What did I miss?

Still think Kemi has been at the Trump Kool aid.

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:01

I wonder what the Tories will think of all this?

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 18:04

Lowe's party has no limits on membership - it includes a whole swathe of people that don't accept Badenoch as a British politician, let alone as an English politician.

Why would she want agree policy with the likes of Patriotic Alternative & Elon Musk?

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:12

Badenoch must have a reason for saying what she has said .

Is she hoping to win over Reform and even Restore supporters? Or does she understand that the idea of her (as a Tory) having influence on a Reform government might scare some Reform support over to Restore and is hoping to split the far right vote enough for the Tories to win?

placemats · Yesterday 18:19

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:12

Badenoch must have a reason for saying what she has said .

Is she hoping to win over Reform and even Restore supporters? Or does she understand that the idea of her (as a Tory) having influence on a Reform government might scare some Reform support over to Restore and is hoping to split the far right vote enough for the Tories to win?

Her mind and thoughts are forever a conundrum.

If this is an attempt to shore up the now extreme right, I would count it as a fail.

Heaven only knows what the Parliamentary tea rooms are gossiping about. Never mind the WhatsApp groups.

PickAChew · Yesterday 18:20

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 18:04

Lowe's party has no limits on membership - it includes a whole swathe of people that don't accept Badenoch as a British politician, let alone as an English politician.

Why would she want agree policy with the likes of Patriotic Alternative & Elon Musk?

It contains people who don't accept Badenoch as British at all.

MsJinks · Yesterday 18:23

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:12

Badenoch must have a reason for saying what she has said .

Is she hoping to win over Reform and even Restore supporters? Or does she understand that the idea of her (as a Tory) having influence on a Reform government might scare some Reform support over to Restore and is hoping to split the far right vote enough for the Tories to win?

Interesting take - I’ve not thought of one good reason - well there’s drugs, alcohol, paymaster, insanity - but not sure they’re good!

MsJinks · Yesterday 18:27

PickAChew · Yesterday 18:20

It contains people who don't accept Badenoch as British at all.

No - Lowe has already talked about his plans to only have properly British people in parliament- JRM queried Boris though and Lowe said he probably would accept him as ok - but then again there’s a clear reason for that choice - just not sure Lowe can express it decently - guess he wouldn’t care if he got to power though.

There was a Restore supporter in the recent flash protest - at least wearing a sweatshirt proclaiming it although guess there will have been more. But my god that guy looked psycho - others looked angry - but he scared me tbh - maybe I’m making an unreasonable correlation to Restore there - but it’s stuck in my head now 🤷🏼‍♀️

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:46

I wonder if Farage will respond at all to Badenoch's interview?

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LittleBowSheep · Yesterday 22:01

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 17:19

Kamikaze Kemi - does she want to totally destroy her party?

Kemikaze?

PickAChew · Yesterday 22:46

LittleBowSheep · Yesterday 22:01

Kemikaze?

It must be past bedtime where our stalker reports Kemi puns.

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 22:48

John Crace used Kemikaze for a while

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BIossomtoes · Yesterday 22:50

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 22:48

John Crace used Kemikaze for a while

Damn. And there I was thinking how witty I was! 🤣

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 22:59

It is a good one!

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LizzieW1969 · Yesterday 23:27

I love ‘kemikaze’, very witty. 🤣

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