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Thread 50 Starmer : Το ταξίδι είναι η ανταμοιβή

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DuncinToffee · 26/05/2026 17:12

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TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 09:37

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 08:43

Oh come on now you Leftie, we are doooooooomed

Doooomed!

Certain elements of MN are pushing two tier policing against whites/Great Replacement Theory/IMF bailout imminent narratives like crazy. You can point them to actual facts, but it's just "yes, but"... (insert dire prediction or whataboutery here).

They won't be content until Farage is PM and all Evil Muslims have been banished. So hopefully that means they will never be content.

PickAChew · 09/06/2026 09:48

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 09:37

Doooomed!

Certain elements of MN are pushing two tier policing against whites/Great Replacement Theory/IMF bailout imminent narratives like crazy. You can point them to actual facts, but it's just "yes, but"... (insert dire prediction or whataboutery here).

They won't be content until Farage is PM and all Evil Muslims have been banished. So hopefully that means they will never be content.

A life full of hate will never be a happy one.

cardibach · 09/06/2026 10:18

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 09:37

Doooomed!

Certain elements of MN are pushing two tier policing against whites/Great Replacement Theory/IMF bailout imminent narratives like crazy. You can point them to actual facts, but it's just "yes, but"... (insert dire prediction or whataboutery here).

They won't be content until Farage is PM and all Evil Muslims have been banished. So hopefully that means they will never be content.

I had an exchange with a bloke on FB (I know, I know…) who was on about ‘Fabians’. I said they weren’t what he thought, I studied them in my degree and his response was ‘waste of time get a job’. When I told him I was retired after a lifetime of full time work he said my degree was probably worth something then (thinks, but I don’t need your validation…) but still didn’t accept what I was saying about Fabians. It’s impossible.

Notonthestairs · 09/06/2026 10:19

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 09:19

Maybe she should have a word with the 2023 Equalities Minister

"There are no protected groups in the Act, only protected characteristics. A white man is just as protected on characteristics of race+sex as a black woman. Yet many believe the Act is just there to protect minorities"

She put her name to a pamphlet which attacked the SEND system for giving children with SN an ‘economic advantage’ - something no parent of a SN child would recognise and which tells me she cares very little for equality.

SerendipityJane · 09/06/2026 10:36

Notonthestairs · 09/06/2026 09:05

It protects pregnancy & maternity FGS!

Remember that removing most women from the workforce is the end goal of the right. They need to be breeding at home.

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 10:39

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 09:51

Oh, there is now a thread to weaponise this absolutely horrific incident. The OP can't even spell Belfast. Or check the BBC website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdejnjdg08eo

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5540306-belgast-last-night-horrific-attack-why-is-this-not-being-reported-on-bbcsky-etc

There are 3 I think - I unfortunately got myself on 2 of them - sigh.

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 10:48

It is pointless @MsJinks . The usual suspects are gleefully all over it. They don't care about the crime or the victim, they just want to weaponise it to spread conspiracy theories and hate. They don't even care about potentially jeopardising a trial, as long as they can get the boot in.

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 10:52

TUC General Secretary Paul Nowak on Kemi Badenoch's pledge to scrap the Public Sector Equality Duty:

"Kemi Badenoch wants to legalise discrimination.

“This proposal would give a future Tory government a free hand to harm your life chances if you’re a woman, gay, black, disabled, or working class."

Communists, tut

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SerendipityJane · 09/06/2026 10:56

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 10:52

TUC General Secretary Paul Nowak on Kemi Badenoch's pledge to scrap the Public Sector Equality Duty:

"Kemi Badenoch wants to legalise discrimination.

“This proposal would give a future Tory government a free hand to harm your life chances if you’re a woman, gay, black, disabled, or working class."

Communists, tut

What are the chances of such an uncommon surname being in the news today ?

I really would be looking very hard at any atheists in an "Are you really sure ?" stare ...

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 10:56

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 10:48

It is pointless @MsJinks . The usual suspects are gleefully all over it. They don't care about the crime or the victim, they just want to weaponise it to spread conspiracy theories and hate. They don't even care about potentially jeopardising a trial, as long as they can get the boot in.

I know - I can’t even keep up!

I expect this is Tommeh’s best day on earth - maybe he’ll wish he hadn’t bothered with Nowak - sigh.

Expecting fun at fash funday Saturday! Though there’s a Brighton one too which may detract the higher profile fash from here.

I have a burner msm a/c to follow what’s occurring a bit on the fash groups - one guy said he’s definitely bringing his dogs - sounded like they’re probably not his pampered pet chihuahuas tbh - sigh.

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 11:02

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 10:56

I know - I can’t even keep up!

I expect this is Tommeh’s best day on earth - maybe he’ll wish he hadn’t bothered with Nowak - sigh.

Expecting fun at fash funday Saturday! Though there’s a Brighton one too which may detract the higher profile fash from here.

I have a burner msm a/c to follow what’s occurring a bit on the fash groups - one guy said he’s definitely bringing his dogs - sounded like they’re probably not his pampered pet chihuahuas tbh - sigh.

What is msm, MsJinks?

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 11:07

Tommeh is spotted in Russia alongside Musk Sr

In case people were wondering about his patriotic loyalties.

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Notonthestairs · 09/06/2026 11:13

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 11:07

Tommeh is spotted in Russia alongside Musk Sr

In case people were wondering about his patriotic loyalties.

Well that fits.
Russian cash & the UK’s far right.

Fascinating to watch the exTories get excited about riots. Some of them seem desperate to will them on.

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 11:17

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 11:02

What is msm, MsJinks?

MSM - meant SM sorry - social media - so I keep burner accounts on fb/x/insta to look at right wing stuff without it contaminating my own accounts - I mean right wing stuff infiltrates readily everywhere but it’s an attempt at separation at least.

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 11:18

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 11:07

Tommeh is spotted in Russia alongside Musk Sr

In case people were wondering about his patriotic loyalties.

Well I doubt an average guy with his record would get a visa - so that’s blatant.

Wonder how fast he can get over to NI though - hmm.

BIWI · 09/06/2026 11:20

I reported the mis-spelt one, on the basis of misinformation. But got the usual reply: doesn't break Talk Guidelines, challenge on the thread, blah blah blah.

SerendipityJane · 09/06/2026 11:39

Notonthestairs · 09/06/2026 11:13

Well that fits.
Russian cash & the UK’s far right.

Fascinating to watch the exTories get excited about riots. Some of them seem desperate to will them on.

We really should thank the Russian people for sending so much of that unneeded money to the UK. I am sure the average citizen would be warmed at Putins charity.

countrygirl99 · 09/06/2026 11:46

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 11:07

Tommeh is spotted in Russia alongside Musk Sr

In case people were wondering about his patriotic loyalties.

Well, St George is the patron saint of Moscow

SerendipityJane · 09/06/2026 11:58

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 11:17

MSM - meant SM sorry - social media - so I keep burner accounts on fb/x/insta to look at right wing stuff without it contaminating my own accounts - I mean right wing stuff infiltrates readily everywhere but it’s an attempt at separation at least.

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- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/jOHj_IWpdA0

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 12:09

SerendipityJane · 09/06/2026 11:58

?

Thank you - that’s interesting and I will keep an eye on that.

SerendipityJane · 09/06/2026 12:10

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 12:09

Thank you - that’s interesting and I will keep an eye on that.

2.2m subscribers rather happened under the radar.

Piggywaspushed · 09/06/2026 12:21

TemperanceWest · 09/06/2026 10:48

It is pointless @MsJinks . The usual suspects are gleefully all over it. They don't care about the crime or the victim, they just want to weaponise it to spread conspiracy theories and hate. They don't even care about potentially jeopardising a trial, as long as they can get the boot in.

I am interested that this has so quickly made the national news and the the UUP leader said this was the worst violence he had ever known on in NI . Seriously??!

When I was there tow years ago , a young man near to where I was staying had been murdered by crucifixion and then set alight. never reported beyond NI press.

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:39

cardibach · 09/06/2026 10:18

I had an exchange with a bloke on FB (I know, I know…) who was on about ‘Fabians’. I said they weren’t what he thought, I studied them in my degree and his response was ‘waste of time get a job’. When I told him I was retired after a lifetime of full time work he said my degree was probably worth something then (thinks, but I don’t need your validation…) but still didn’t accept what I was saying about Fabians. It’s impossible.

Fetch Mean Girls GIF

I think they are trying to make Fabians a thing IYSWIM (I know the Fabian society is real, but I think they want it to be the next big insult).

It's keeps popping up on social media but never in real life. What usually happens is that bots will start referencing a phrase/an idea and if it gets a foothold (ie it turns out that it fits with a genuine grievance some people have) double down. I don't think it's possible to use social media etc to make new grievances/divisions. The trick is to test and test till you find a crack then expand that crack. And it's now possible to do that quickly at scale.

I don't think everyone that I disagree with online is a bot. But there are patterns that are quite recognisable (like those comments about finances that are always pushing ac--- scammer) and there are a lot of bots of Facebook and twitter. No idea if your guy was genuine or not. But it doesn't feel as successful to me as two tier Kier or the New World Order stuff.

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:41

DuncinToffee · 09/06/2026 11:07

Tommeh is spotted in Russia alongside Musk Sr

In case people were wondering about his patriotic loyalties.

He's not worried about child grooming when the man accused is white (and rich) then? Interesting.

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