Three women's bodies found in the sea at Brighton

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This is absolutely heartbreaking.

Why didn't anyone report three women were missing?

If it's a Channel crossing, from what I understand, it's rare that women go on the boats from France, and when they do they are pushed to the back / bottom, where the risk of being crushed is high.

If it's not a crossing, what on earth has happened?

Words can't express how evil this is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyg508gg28t

These women were in their 30s and from London. As a London child school swimming was extremely limited and non existent at secondary school. My Sussex although not Brighton DCs had swimming everyday from May-September at school and the RNLI come in more than once. I wonder if it is more regional than racial. Although I absolutely take the points about Muslim women.

This. When you fall into cold water you can be an olympic swimmer and it's not likely to help you against the shock.

I haven't RTFT, is there something the family have said that states the family were Muslim and didn't want to teach the girls to swim due to segregation? Or is this just posters putting two and two together and getting fourteen?

I don't think anyone on this thread is suggesting that.

People who are able to swim are less likely to drown for two reasons: 1. if they get in the water they can swim 2. they are generally more objective about the risk of getting in the water in the first place.

if you read back a few pages you’ll find the answer

Yes. If their father is from Jamaica and is religious, it's likely that he's Catholic, as much of the Caribbean is Catholic. So he might have raised them Catholic. (I'm saying Jamaica because of the woman from Jamaica who wrote on her socials that the women were her cousins.)

My close school friend has Jamaican heritage and she’s catholic. We went to the same convent together.

My friend from Barbados on the other hand, her father was a Christian but not Catholic. Mother lapsed religion but from Grenada. Another friend who’s dad is Anguilla she’s Christian not Catholic and an Antiguan family I know they’re not religious so highly doubtful Catholic.

Did someone actually type the words Asian people are more likely to drown. This thread is disgusting

I really don’t like the accusations of racism towards anyone bringing up the worrying statistic that black, Asian, and minority groups are 3.5 times as likely to drown. And to want to address that inequality and want to discuss what can be done to stop this.

Is it racist to say black women are more likely to die in this country in childbirth? No it’s not. Because it’s shocking and needs to be addressed and not brushed under the carpet for fear of being accused of racism.

If we don’t talk about and
address what is causing these inequalities then nothing changes! It comes from a place of wanting to help. There are specific groups set up to address this - are they racist?

We don’t know if these women were strong swimmers or whether indeed that would have saved them. We don’t know what their water safety knowledge was like.

It's not disgusting if it's a statistical fact.

This thread is gross a load of people talking about people of colour as if they are a different species. On a thread that was in theory to discuss three women who have died!!!!!!!!!! They were real women and they have died and this thread is revolting

Some parts of the thread are. I don’t think that bit was though. If you were to say boys are more likely than girls to die from misadventure but girls are several times more likely to be victims of sexual assault that isn’t dehumanising either, it’s a statement of fact.

The family have said they don’t drink. smoke or go clubbing. So hopefully that will stop any speculation about drunken antics. I didn’t think that was the cause. They are upset by the speculation that they were drinking and clubbing.

It’s very tragic - The Times are reporting that the family are saying they may have headed to Brighton to mark the memory of their mother who died by drowning in 2010.

There will be an inquest, where all the circumstances, any cctv evidence, whether they had had a drink, and so on, will become clear.

Needn't have been 'drunken antics' - Just that a couple of glasses of wine, which is quite a moderate amount, might reduce perception of risk, slow reactions, and perhaps make one more susceptible to cold water shock.

People have only speculated that because Brighton is a clubbing town where people go to party. Even in this thread people have said they'd gone in the sea after a heavy night out. Especially in the area that they were and at 4am you would not likely be there unless you had just come out of a nightclub.

If they were there to mark their mother who drowned it seems a rather strange choice to enter the sea at 4-5am when it was cold, rough and choppy.

That particular speculation was understandable to begin with as Quarters had very recently closed when the 3 women were discovered. I know this to be true because my daughter's phone had her leaving the club at 5am that morning. Now , however, after hearing from their family and learning their ages it seems like an unrealistic turn of events. Quarters is used by students and though the women were young they were older than the usual attendees.

I hope their family get some answers soon. They are in my prayers.

It does seem like a strange choice I agree.

It all seems strange - if they weren’t out at a club drinking then why were they on a beach at 5.45am. I don’t think they intended to enter the cold, choppy sea but even a decision to
paddle does seem bizarre.

Totally agree. It's really very strange.

The fact it happened to their mum too is horrific:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/body-found-in-brookvale-lake-in-erdington-118166

Oh that is tragic

Their mother drowned? That's either an absolutely tragic coincidence or could this have been a joint suicide?

It sounds like they were just women enjoying time in Brighton. Loads of people stay on the beach all night enjoying the vibe. I used to live down there and the sea is lethal. If you go paddling too far there is a gravel shelf that suddenly drops off into a deep area and you cant climb back up. You need to be a strong swimmer to get back on the beach. I can see how this could happen.

Yes, in a lake in 2012 in Birmingham. Seems like mental health issues were involved.

Thats why I find it strange they would choose to go in the sea when it's cold/rough at 4am. The family have said they dont actually know why they came to Brighton late on Tuesday night.

I wonder if the day the sisters went swimming was the day of the mothers birthday or something. I have sisters and although we love each other the only time we would ever go away somewhere all together would be to mark a moment/occasion (maybe thats just us though)