Anyone else worried about Andes virus transmission after the cruise ship cases?

[BabyWally]

Hantavirus is on a cruise ship. Where you get that from rodent droppings. There's a subnet of that virus and it's called Andesvirus and apparently that is human to human transmission.

Anyone else worried about the possibilty of that virus getting out of hand and the possibilty of a Panasonic this year?

There's no wat that virus is contained on the ship any more because one of the people who died travelled on a plane while ill and died in an airport.

That virus is travelling the world in many people right now but we won't know the extent of it yet because the incubation period can be so long 1-8 weeks apparently to show symptoms.

My issue is that I learned from covid that nobody cares when they are ill and showing symptoms of illness or sickness, it doesn't have to be covid, it's everything, it could be norovirus and people just pass it on as a fact of life and a badge of honour.

Many people are just not able to reflect when they are ill and just minimising passing on whatever they have.

There's the world cup in the summer time too and that will bring many people together.

Does anyone know if people are infectious with Andesvirus during incubation and before symptoms appear? Because if that's the case, we are f*cked.

No I’m not really concerned. I was watching Sky News earlier and they interviewed a professor and he said it is very different from Covid as it is only contagious when you are symptomatic.

And as a percentage of the world population, this is minuscule. Ebola etc are far more concerning and we don’t worry about that do we?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2009040

82 healthcare workers were exposed to the virus while treating symptomatic patients. Not one of them developed the virus. The Andes Hantavirus has a low transmission rate and doesn't appear to be particularly contagious.

I hope that helps your worries. This isn't Ebola.

Nope.

I am not clicking on a link. Healthcare workers - I presume they wore at least a mask when dealing with someone with a possible infectious disease. So the risk of transmission would be lowered with the use of PPE.

I ma talking about the general public. People are never going to wear masks again in public if they are unwell. So many passing it on might be higher.

My issue is if people are only infectious while symptomatic, my issue is that many people don't care when they are sick and they mix with people and pass on whatever they do have.

The link I gave you was a research paper that studied the transmission rate of the Andes hantavirus that you were asking about.

The salient part is this:
"Although several high-risk medical procedures were performed in patients with ANDV hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, including orotracheal intubation and cleaning of bodily fluids such as vomit, diarrhea, and other secretions, no nosocomial infections were reported among health care workers who had been in direct or close contact with the patients at the health care facilities"
Nosocomial just means "an infection acquired in a healthcare facility"

The point is, that during the COVID pandemic a lot of healthcare workers despite following the same protocols as the people involved in this study developed COVID and some obviously died. Here, no one even contracted it.

No not concerned - except by your scaremongering - WHO says low risk of human to human transmission

Seriously switch the news off. Don't you realise there's virus's, diseases, infections etc spreading around all day every day, I don't know how people can function with that level of panic.

No. I wasn’t concerned about Covid either

I’m concerned. It has now spread far beyond the ship. Cases in Switzerland.

Anyone else worried about the possibilty of that virus getting out of hand and the possibilty of a Panasonic this year?

No, because I don’t subscribe to scaremongering. Amusing typo though. Other brands are easily available for most things if you want to avoid them, though I’ve personally always found Panasonic quite reliable.

No, I am not worried at all.

I have a Biology degree and this isn't on my radar.

The next pandemic will be another flu variant. The only time I'm going to really panic is when blue flu jumps the species barrier.

You need highly contagious with high mortality rates and this isn't it I don't think.

No. You're only worried because it's in the news. If it wasn't you'd be none the wiser. Do you realise just how many incidents there are of illness and death that aren't shown in the press? Look at stats online. Actually dont because then you'll really panic!

@BabyWally I'm a bit worried.
I think it's a hangover from COVID .
But I'm aware that my reaction is emotional and not based on knowledge and facts.

Anything with a 40% mortality rate will kill their hosts before it can become a pandemic. Not worried at all. This is exactly why Ebola, Marburg Virus and all of those other fearmongering diseases never became pandemics.

The most dangerous viruses are those which allow 98% to survive, giving it enough time to spread and mutate. Covid obviously. And most flu type illnesses.

untrue, it takes 3 weeks to incubate. So by the time people are dying they’ve spread it all over the shop. One woman got on a plane!

No I’m not particularly worried. Viruses with such high mortality rates tend to burn themselves out very quickly, the patients are too ill to spread it around much or they sadly die before they have much opportunity to pass it on.

Head of WHO has just posted on Twitter about the evacuation of the sick passengers/ crew - he didn't mention Switzerland - is that a typo for Argentina?

The news is banging on about it for engagement and clicks. Forget about it.

Yes but unlike covid it's not contagious until the symptoms appear.

No, there has been a suspected case in Switzerland.

Who had been a passenger on the cruise ship.

There is no indication that there has been any person to person transmission other than those in close contact with each other on the ship.

Not really. I assume there's rats on the ship spreading it around.

Have you got a source or a link for that because I couldn't find anything?

See above that it's a passenger so don't bother, thanks

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