Anyone else worried about Andes virus transmission after the cruise ship cases?

[BabyWally]

Hantavirus is on a cruise ship. Where you get that from rodent droppings. There's a subnet of that virus and it's called Andesvirus and apparently that is human to human transmission.

Anyone else worried about the possibilty of that virus getting out of hand and the possibilty of a Panasonic this year?

There's no wat that virus is contained on the ship any more because one of the people who died travelled on a plane while ill and died in an airport.

That virus is travelling the world in many people right now but we won't know the extent of it yet because the incubation period can be so long 1-8 weeks apparently to show symptoms.

My issue is that I learned from covid that nobody cares when they are ill and showing symptoms of illness or sickness, it doesn't have to be covid, it's everything, it could be norovirus and people just pass it on as a fact of life and a badge of honour.

Many people are just not able to reflect when they are ill and just minimising passing on whatever they have.

There's the world cup in the summer time too and that will bring many people together.

Does anyone know if people are infectious with Andesvirus during incubation and before symptoms appear? Because if that's the case, we are f*cked.

AI says that a flight attendant and a 25 year old passenger from a KLM flight have been hospitalised with symptoms .
It was a flight that the wife of one of the ship passengers who had died was on.
She also died after leaving the plane.

But I've just found this

Dutch broadcaster RTL said the woman was a stewardess at Dutch airline KLM, who had been in contact with a woman who died from a hantavirus infection in Johannesburg.

However on Friday, a WHO official told CBS News that she had tested negative for the virus
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/klm-flight-attendant-tested-negative-hantavirus-infection-who-says-2026-05-08/

I don’t think either of those are the case people are talking about though. There was an article in the Sun about a person in France who apparently caught it (then might have caught it) sitting two rows away from someone. But it’s never been mentioned again in any news paper that I can find. Even in their own article they barely mention any details.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/39024022/canary-islands-rat-virus-cruise-dock-banned/

Could it be this ?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3r2p70jdy7o

Q - Where is one more likely to catch a rat-borne disease?

A - On a modern cruise ship, or

B - At a rat-infested rubbish dump?

Answers on a postcard from Ushuaia.

No because that person was on the ship. This is the original comment from a week ago on here on page 2

As per the sun a French person has now been diagnosed with Hantavirus after taking a flight with an infected passenger. The first case not on the boat.
Human to human transmission is happening.

Then later on someone else comments they read he was sitting two rows away from the infected person.

Human to human transmission is happening.

Human to human transmission has been happening from the start. The strain they are infected with or that has killed those now dead has been proven to be the Andean hantavirus that is transmitted human to human.

I’ll see if I can find it.
This article confirms person to person transmission from an outbreak in 2018.
https://www.bmj.com/content/393/bmj.s919

No one is questioning human to human transmission. It’s the report from a week ago of a French person who apparently caught the virus from a plane sitting 2 rows away from an infected person.

Plenty of people have thought it was simply rat to human transmitted, and haven't caught on that this is the Andes hantavirus and that it's different.

There is more than A or B going on.

• The species of rodent that carries ANDV (the species of hantavirus in this case) has never been documented in Tierra del Fuego. Nor has ANDV.
• No species of hantavirus (there are over a dozen in South America)whether in a rodent or a human, has ever been documented in Tierra del Fuego.
• The incubation time for this virus is 1-8 weeks, and the birding couple had just been in Uruguay, Chile, and a different part of Argentina where this hantavirus is actually found.
• The overwhelming majority of human hantavirus cases are in people who acquired it from enclosed places (homes, abandoned buildings, etc.) with a lot of rodents. Getting it in an open air area is really rare, and to my knowledge, no one has ever got a hantavirus at an open air landfill.
• This is the only hantavirus that is known to spread between humans. So they didn't even have to come in contact with any rodents or rodent droppings to acquire it.
• The closest known cases of any hantavirus in humans or rodents is around 700 miles from the landfill where they birded at.

Ummmmmmm
anyway the book idea is great - I think the murderer is a scientist who has also worked out, and injected himself with, a vaccine.
except - does it actually work? Is he actually succumbing to the virus or is his guilt ridden mind playing tricks…

Having worked in the field of infectious diseases and national crisis that follows, it's pointless for the lay person trying to logic out what is more likely how it started and logically what will happen next. Unpredictable shit happens and viruses don't talk or play ball. You can only go on what you do know from the past. Unless your a virologist your not going to know enough to make predictions of much merit.

It's just guessing. Even with my background I'm guessing I don't much care. But my kids are scared. But that's all skewed by covid.

It's very interesting but I'm not going to do more than watch with interest. I do think there is real fear when people can't say "this happened because of X and we can control X so we can control this". In reality, we can't control X and we can't stop outbreaks. There lays the fear.

I had a real interest in covid months before lockdown. I still think this isn't going to spread but happy to eat my words at a later point.