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Worried about flights being cancelled

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kinkytoes · 22/04/2026 12:28

Latest news from Lufthansa. It's not good news.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cre1r4n5j5wo

A summer beckoning filled with much looked forward to holidays. I'm sure many of us booked before the war even started.

What do we think the situation will be come July/August? How worried should we be?

(I know there is bugger all we can do about it. I just want to discuss it with others that's all.)

OP posts:
cauliflowercheeseplease · 04/05/2026 07:59

My mother in law is coming in June from abroad just before I give birth. I have no other family here so I’m praying she makes it over as I genuinely can’t do it without her

Another76543 · 04/05/2026 08:00

Simonjt · 04/05/2026 07:42

We’re going to Canada, well hopefully anyway, all of our stays are refundable until a few days before check in, so if our flights are cancelled it isn’t a disaster.

I’m less concerned about our holiday getting cancelled before we go, as all our stays are refundable with a day or two’s notice (apart from one which needs a month’s notice). I was just looking at what happens if we get stuck abroad though. I believe that the airline has the responsibility to get us home, and I think they have to pay for accommodation if we were delayed getting home.

StarlightLady · 04/05/2026 08:18

It sounds as if recent developments have been positive, although flight times and possibly departure airports may change. Just don’t book any accommodation which does not offer a cancellation option.

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Unalakleet · 04/05/2026 08:29

We are going to book flights and a hotel as a package through the airline to get the extra protection but I do need to look into what that means for if they change flight times.

We are going over for an event, arriving at 8.30 am for an event at 7 pm, if they changed from a morning to an evening flight there would be no point in going. It's a nice enough place but somewhere we've been before and it's ££ for the particular dates we are going which is only worth it because of the event.

notimagain · 04/05/2026 09:06

Helpdiagnose · 04/05/2026 07:41

Weve all known this for a while when is the government going to tell us ,what exactly is going on

What exactly are you expecting to be told?

If the rumours are true the government/airlines can only maybe look ahead at actual stock levels maybe 6 weeks..if the Straits open then the picture changes again, and the announcement about slot forgiveness was only made in the last few days.

Basically still more than a few unknowns.

I suspect at least now the airlines can be a bit more proactive about consolodating flights morr than a few days out but it's going to take time to plan and announcr

StarlightLady · 04/05/2026 09:15

applesandrhubarb · 22/04/2026 17:17

I'm also really worried - we've got a holiday booked in august to one of the Greek islands. Not a package -booked flights and Airbnb ourselves. I'm so worried that we won't get there at all and we'll lose all that money. Hadn't thought about getting there and not back but now I'm worrying about that too.

The majority (admittedly not all) of short haul flights to holiday destinations operate on a fly out and fly back to the original departure airport basis (in other words, point A to point B and then back to point A) refuelling before the return leg. Therefore it is likely that if there is a flight out, there will be one returning a few weeks later.

mantez · 04/05/2026 09:18

whattheysay · 04/05/2026 07:59

If you booked your holiday diy and not a package you may struggle to get a refund from your credit card for the hotel part. There is nothing wrong with the hotel so they may not allow your claim if you have to cancel because of the flight.

Yes I agree that a hotel booking may not be covered on chargeback. However, I did say that my accommodation can be cancelled up to two days prior to arrival. I always do that, even though it adds a few quid on to the rate. Worth it IMV, just in case!.

Mumstheword1983 · 04/05/2026 09:23

We had this during the pandemic. Flights were refunded/changed free of charge as they were cancelled but we had booked a separate Air B&B and hotel. Although they were not refundable, both let us move the dates for free and we went a year later. It won't always be the case but sometimes in exceptional circumstances they will offer a compromise. We booked last September so all we can do now is hope our flight isn't cancelled as they won't all be (according to the experts).

RedToothBrush · 04/05/2026 09:44

The BBC article doesn't include a lot of what I've read in the last couple of days.

First of all there is something of an intention to prioritise people going on their holidays over business travel. The idea being that during the summer, many daily business routes have less traffic so they can cut those flights rather than holiday ones whilst protecting flights which go maybe twice a week to a destination.

Second of all, is Ryanair have said they have hedged their fuel better than anyone else and they now think they are not anticipating any disruption to their service until the end of June at the very earliest (so Whit Holiday is now fine). This is a significant improvement on what they had been saying.

However Ryanair cautioned that they thought that it may well put some other airlines out of business if the blockade lasted much longer and that was one of the real risks as they were really that badly at risk.

My understanding is that Spain have some of the best protected supplies of fuel in Europe (with the UK being one of the most exposed at the other end of the scale). This is reassuring for many. Italy started rationing supplies at four airports in April in order to protect routes and keep planes flying. I don't know how that is going but there was definitely government management of the situation early on with a view to avoid problems later on in a strategic move.

I don't think the BBC article talks about any of this. Yesterday there was agreement made to allow some cutting of routes by allowing airlines to keep landing slots even if they didn't run the number usually required to keep that slot for the next season. This gives airlines more flexibility.

I think I was reading that potentially they think up to 10% of all flights might face disruption. But if this is to be focused on cutting one flight from a schedule of four in a day or cutting one midweek route in a daily schedule and rescheduling passengers onto other available flights the impact is likely to be significantly less than it might well be.

Passenger behaviour is changing too, with Jet2 reporting people booking flights later than usual as they see how the situation is developing. In some ways this is better for airlines as they have dynamic pricing and they will have been able to put the prices higher to cover the increase in cost rather than merely honouring their contract. By this token it's probably longer haul passenger who are likely to be more exposed as those flights tend to be booked further in advance.

If people feel more confident their flight will operate they are more likely to book something and fill flights. This certainly chimes with what I'm hearing from friends - people are being more hesitant and booking. We certainly were planning to go somewhere at half term but haven't booked anything because we didn't want to get stranded. If this is looking less likely, we might.

The problems seem to now be looking more like mid August / September rather than sooner than the initial dramatic noise saying at one point 'Europe only has six weeks of fuel left' which was being said at Easter.

WhatsitWiggle · 04/05/2026 09:56

LostThestral · 22/04/2026 16:48

We have a holiday booked for September which is a package holiday with BA so assume if it is cancelled they will refund us?

Package holidays offer additional protection by law. If your flight is cancelled, firstly they'll try to offer you a different flight - same day if there is one, or flying from LGW instead of LHR, then next day. If those aren't suitable and you want to cancel, you can do and the refund is processed same or next day.

The alternative flight is held for you, you don't have to scramble to find one.

TutTutTutSigh · 04/05/2026 10:01

wishingonastar101 · 22/04/2026 15:28

God I hope it's not like covid again where we all have to go on holiday in the UK and spend £7K on a shitey airbnb in Cornwall...

We went abroad 3 times in covid- Aug 2020, May 2021, Aug 2021. I'm genuinely curious why you didn't/couldn't? We had the time booked off work and would check what ridiculous rules were in place at the time and choose a location based on that. But other than a few minutes of extra research we went away as usual.

notimagain · 04/05/2026 10:03

I think the mostly non-aviation savvy MSM have generated a few misconceptions TBH.

The "only six weeks fuel left" is more a case of many in the industry saying " based on what we know is on tankers en-route/in refineries/in bulk store we can say with some confidence we have six weeks supply for definite, beyond that confidence drops.

As for hedging and comments about thzt by the likes of MOL - all hedging means is the airline has struck a deal to buy a certain amount of what fuel is available at a fixed price...saying you're hedged until e.g. the Autumn doesn't in itself protect the airline from having no fuel if there's no supply end of August....

It does mean though that airlines who have hedged are better off financially than those that are having to go out and buy fuel now at today's price.

TBH from what I'm hearing even a lot inside the industry are a bit ? about selection of flights that might run/might not, and how far ahead their company can run a full'ish schedule....

WhatsitWiggle · 04/05/2026 10:05

Ryanair have said they have hedged their fuel better than anyone else

Hedging is just a contract to buy fuel at a specific price. A bit like when you fix your gas/electricity prices. It doesn't guarantee the supply of fuel - Ryanair doesn't have a stockpile of tankers with fuel for the year.

Most European routes can fill up in the UK and make it out and back, so the risk of your flight making it to a small Greek island and not back again is reduced. It makes the aircraft heavier and less efficient, so it's not routinely done, but is an option.

TutTutTutSigh · 04/05/2026 10:07

This year, we've been away at Easter and due to fly again in 2 weeks. Haven't booked anything after that, will book something fairly last minute if/when the situation is clearer.

Miranda65 · 04/05/2026 10:08

I suggest you all follow the experienced travel journalist Simon Calder - he is very good on all this stuff, customer rights etc.

Another76543 · 04/05/2026 10:10

TutTutTutSigh · 04/05/2026 10:01

We went abroad 3 times in covid- Aug 2020, May 2021, Aug 2021. I'm genuinely curious why you didn't/couldn't? We had the time booked off work and would check what ridiculous rules were in place at the time and choose a location based on that. But other than a few minutes of extra research we went away as usual.

I seem to remember that under 12s weren’t originally offered Covid vaccinations. Some countries had restrictions for unvaccinated travellers. For example, some hotels in certain countries wouldn’t allow unvaccinated children into restaurants/public spaces. For some, it wasn’t worth the hassle. Others didn’t want to take unvaccinated children through airports/on planes and risk getting covid abroad.

The rules were constantly changing, with some having to quarantine on arrival back in the UK. A lot of people didn’t want the uncertainty or risk of travelling at that time, certainly in 2020.

Mumstheword1983 · 04/05/2026 10:14

TutTutTutSigh · 04/05/2026 10:01

We went abroad 3 times in covid- Aug 2020, May 2021, Aug 2021. I'm genuinely curious why you didn't/couldn't? We had the time booked off work and would check what ridiculous rules were in place at the time and choose a location based on that. But other than a few minutes of extra research we went away as usual.

We had 2 foreign holidays cancelled during these years and didn't get the money back (we had to move the dates to following year) so some people couldn't for that reason. And the stress and worry of it likely put people off.

notimagain · 04/05/2026 10:15

Miranda65 · 04/05/2026 10:08

I suggest you all follow the experienced travel journalist Simon Calder - he is very good on all this stuff, customer rights etc.

He's very good on the customer rights stuff...

He's not always quite as spot on with some of the tech/operational issues.

Unalakleet · 04/05/2026 10:15

Another76543 · 04/05/2026 10:10

I seem to remember that under 12s weren’t originally offered Covid vaccinations. Some countries had restrictions for unvaccinated travellers. For example, some hotels in certain countries wouldn’t allow unvaccinated children into restaurants/public spaces. For some, it wasn’t worth the hassle. Others didn’t want to take unvaccinated children through airports/on planes and risk getting covid abroad.

The rules were constantly changing, with some having to quarantine on arrival back in the UK. A lot of people didn’t want the uncertainty or risk of travelling at that time, certainly in 2020.

Edited

Yes, a friend has a son with a late August Birthday and they managed to get away as he was still 11 but he was the only child in the class who went abroad that year as most places required COVID vaccinations in 2021

Angelil · 04/05/2026 10:17

I’m also worried. I live overseas and am meant to be travelling to the U.K. at the end of June for my best friend’s 40th. My flight is with a major airline, but going in/out of small airports (plus my outbound flight is the final one of the day to the U.K. as far as I know, on a Thursday evening) - so I am worried that they will cancel it. Seriously considering booking alternative means of travel and am curious as to what others here would do. Would you sit it out because the first weekend in June is not that far away / not peak season yet? Or would you suck it up and book a Eurostar as backup?

We also booked the ferry rather than the Eurotunnel to go and visit my parents this summer, since the kids are older now and we thought the ferry would be more fun for them. Of course ferries also run on fuel 🤦🏼‍♀️ what do people think the score will be there?

notimagain · 04/05/2026 10:18

WhatsitWiggle · 04/05/2026 10:05

Ryanair have said they have hedged their fuel better than anyone else

Hedging is just a contract to buy fuel at a specific price. A bit like when you fix your gas/electricity prices. It doesn't guarantee the supply of fuel - Ryanair doesn't have a stockpile of tankers with fuel for the year.

Most European routes can fill up in the UK and make it out and back, so the risk of your flight making it to a small Greek island and not back again is reduced. It makes the aircraft heavier and less efficient, so it's not routinely done, but is an option.

It can also lead to payload restrictions ex the UK so as you say it's an option but sometimes not a great one

TutTutTutSigh · 04/05/2026 10:18

Another76543 · 04/05/2026 10:10

I seem to remember that under 12s weren’t originally offered Covid vaccinations. Some countries had restrictions for unvaccinated travellers. For example, some hotels in certain countries wouldn’t allow unvaccinated children into restaurants/public spaces. For some, it wasn’t worth the hassle. Others didn’t want to take unvaccinated children through airports/on planes and risk getting covid abroad.

The rules were constantly changing, with some having to quarantine on arrival back in the UK. A lot of people didn’t want the uncertainty or risk of travelling at that time, certainly in 2020.

Edited

Ah OK, I hadn't thought of the young children aspect. I do remember the faff having to be covid tested before each flight and uploading the results onto an app.

TutTutTutSigh · 04/05/2026 10:21

Mumstheword1983 · 04/05/2026 10:14

We had 2 foreign holidays cancelled during these years and didn't get the money back (we had to move the dates to following year) so some people couldn't for that reason. And the stress and worry of it likely put people off.

That's fair. I often see people saying they didn't go away for years due to covid as though it wasn't possible, which isn't true, but some good points have been made.

Curlygirl06 · 04/05/2026 10:43

We've got a cruise booked in October, and those ships use a lot of fuel!

SpareFurniture · 04/05/2026 10:48

One thing I refuse to do is pay £7k for a shitey Airbnb in Cornwall!