Husband insists moon landings were faked and 9/11 was a false flag secret operation the Americans did to themselves

[AmberTigerEyes]

I am désolé
My husband, he tell me he really believe there has never been a moon landing and that the 9/11 attacks were faked too.
I was in New York on 9/11
He knows this
He keeps saying things that have been disproven as conspiracy theory myths.
I wonder if I should be calling for a mental crisis unit.

No, I don't understand that either. I think there's potential for insistent illogicality on both sides of the debate.

People who dismiss the theory that 9/11 was an inside job as obviously ridiculous, but then don't have any explanation about legitimate questions such as how a passport survived unscathed and identifiably in a fire that did immense damage to an aeroplane; why was the complete collapse of Building 7 reported by the official news channels when it could still be seen behind them standing before suddenly collapsing 20 minutes later; how was the Patriot Act all ready to go in just six weeks - and not even just any six weeks, but six weeks after all of that had just happened? Also the reports that the Bushes and Bin Laden's close family members had met socially shortly before the event; and the claimed testimonies from very experienced military pilots that they couldn't have flown into the buildings with such accuracy etc.

As PP said, whether or not you accept the veracity and evidence or not of these questions/conclusions of something afoot is one thing; but just instantly huffing and harumphing that it's so clearly all ridiculous, and that anybody asking these questions must be mentally ill, doesn't necessarily put you in a great intellectual light either.

On the other side, the people who doggedly insist that Finland doesn't exist; birds are actually robots that recharge by sitting on telegraph lines; the royal family are actually, physically reptiles and not human at all - because they read it online and so it must be true... These can all be very easily gainsaid with very simple logic, and none of the claimed 'evidence' can be objectively said to merit any serious consideration.

Oddly enough, even the most staunch automatic deniers of all conspiracies in the west never seem to have much difficulty in assuming the exact opposite when it comes to allegations of what the governments of Russia, Iran, North Korea and China have been up to. Unless you genuinely believe that all/certain governments would never, ever lie to their people about anything, it does seem to me to represent a bright, open mind if you critically examine the evidence and the merits of the suggestion. Insisting that it MUST be true, or similarly that it CANNOT be true, without any consideration at all of serious, at least possible objections or questions just seems rather intellectually dishonest to me.

Because they are using new technology which they now know works and its the 1st time a maned craft has orbited the moon which makes it the 1st manned mission to go into deep space plus the new communication system was tested and works.
The Artemis programme is being used as a testing and proving ground for the next programme which will be putting humans on mars.

Can you confirm if the spoons (Mr,Mrs and Tina?) Actually ever went to the moon or if thst was a lie too? Id be bloody gutted if it was 🥺

Fuckin' hell!!!

Another person seemingly blissfully unaware of the history of space travel - Sputnik, cosmonauts, astronauts, Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, the space shuttle.

Do you think the International space Satation is suspicious?

Can they confirm if the moon is really a button? Because surely it is…

What I think’s quite brilliant is the anti-moon landing people, thinking they’re out-smarting NASA at the same time as coming up with questions like ‘but what did they do for petrol on the way home?’ And ‘but how would that ‘un-streamlined spaceship take back off?’

I mean, I’m all for asking questions when you don’t understand something, but knowing that you don’t understand something and using that lack of understanding as some kind of gotcha against… NASA… I don’t know, I’m kind of jealous, it’s probably quite fun living like that.

To be that arrogant!

(them not you)

If people believe the 'official' story of everything they're told then its worrying what else they can be convinced of......

I'd say they're the cohort who could be more easily convinced to drink bleach tbh.

Not in my lifetime either but I don't think anything I've seen from television footage in the 60s looks real, particularly in black and white.

I have seen the laser reflected experiment though, well the data figures produced by the experiment confirming the laser reflected off of mirrors on the moon (placed by Apollo 11) as there isn't anything to actually see "see". Followed by a lengthy lecture about the Lunokhod 1 rover and it's miraculous reappearance in 2010. He wasn't impressed by quips that the Clangers stole it. Fascinating experience though.

Whilst I agree that those questions are patently ridiculous, I find it interesting that your "gotcha" is "Because....NASA!" as if that is an unquestionable organisation.

NASA....started by the US government in 1958 when they were in the grip of the Anti American panic. At a point in history where the US would do practically anything to destroy the Red Menace.

So, I am afraid that I have to say it isnt the Gotcha you think it is either!

What was the "Anti American panic"?

Mine claimed dinosaurs were a hoax and the bones were planted by the devil (attended a specific church as a child). We cannot discuss it AT ALL. I thought he was taking the piss initially an laughed 😳

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There is 4 holes in it so its not just a button...its a big coat button thst takes a good bit of thread to keep it it place....its going nowhere soon, in otherwords 🤣 xx̌x

For everybody who thinks it was all faked, do you also believe that Gus Grissom, Ed white and Roger Chaffee weren't incinerated on the launch pad of Apollo 1 on 27 January 1967?

But the official story about drinking bleach is plausible. It's dangerous. It says so right there on the bottle: DO NOT SWALLOW.

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You also need to understand science with real knowledge then you’ll know how to answer the questions I feel

I spoke with somebody who believed that the government dropping nanotechnology from helicopters into our skin. (This was about 10 years ago now)Being an engineer, I understood that that was impossible because we just don’t have the info structure for it.

But if you’re not understanding of how things work, then you can be conned

I think both are plausible conspiracies - but what does believing them really change? We know that the overarching system is corrupt, dishonest, indifferent to the lives of the average human and manufactured to produce profit for an already wealthy elite. That is factually established. The methods by which this is achieved are kind of beside the point.

And people who still think it was faked could watch this

It explains why no stars were visible, it explains why the photos and films look like they do and it explains the science and mathmatics behind how they got there and how they got back.

(Spoiler: rocket science isn't really that difficult but it takes an awful lot of money)

It also explains why we've never been back - until now.

You sound like an absolute delight to be married to (not!). Your husband has critical thinking which gives him more intelligence than we can say about you. Why not fully research the subjects and come up with real facts rather than throwing your husband under the bus on mumsnet for your own entertainment! pathetic!

Agree on both. We can’t even seem to get astronauts safely back to earth funny enough Artemis never landed.

The way the towers collapsed sounds dodgy. Have friends in NYC who lived on lower 6th avenue and agree. Each to their own.

It’s weird that someone so scientifically superior can’t spell infrastructure

BUT IS IT MADE OF CHEESE?? for the love of god, I need to know.

cheese Gromit,