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Immortal Invisible and When A Knight Won His Spurs

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TheTecknician · 14/03/2026 12:49

Fun fact, just in case you didn't know. The words to these hymns can be transposed to each other's tune. Both are in 3/4 time.

Similarly with Amazing Grace and I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing, although these two have different time signatures.

That's all!

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JustGiveMeReason · 20/03/2026 15:24

Underneath the last post there is a blue button 'Watch thread'.
If you click on that it saves it for you.

When you want to find it, at the top of the screen you will see 'Threads I'm Watching' and it will be in there. Smile

Biggermommabear · 20/03/2026 15:46

TheTecknician · 20/03/2026 10:56

I'm not Christian but I'd say the hymns that have a bit of life and vigour about them are more appealing. There was one particularly dull and dreary number at my primary school; the first line was 'Holy, holy, holy, holy'. No idea what it was called but rubbish nonetheless.

You've got an extra "Holy" but I think you mean this one ?

I don't agree that it's dim and dreary.

TheTecknician · 20/03/2026 17:00

I must have been thinking of a different 'Holy, holy...' but thankyou anyway. The tune I had in mind was in 3/4 time. 'Holly Holy' is different again - gospel flavoured!

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Losted · 20/03/2026 17:34

As @ErrolTheDragon mentioned, you should all have a listen to "I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue" (available on Sounds) and check out the "One song to the tune of another" round.

Having just googled to check out the correct title of the round, it brings up loads of links - although as this thread is quite hymn-based, I should point out that some of the lyrics chosen are far from religious!

PropitiousJump · 20/03/2026 18:58

We sang a 'Holy Holy Holy' which I really liked -

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to thee.
Holy, holy, holy! merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!

Holy, holy, holy! all the saints adore thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea.
Cherubim and seraphim, falling down before thee,
Who was and is and evermore shall be.

Predictably, some people used to sing 'Holy Holy Holy! All my socks are holey!'😀

I loved the second verse with the wonderful words 'cherubim and seraphim' and the unarguable finality of 'who was and is and evermore shall be.'

ETA this is the one linked by @Biggermommabear below

HelenaWilson · 20/03/2026 19:23

I liked the imagery of 'Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea'.

Another one I liked for its imagery and tune was 'Hills of the North rejoice'.
'Isles of the southern seas
Deep in your coral caves'

Only got to sing it at Advent of course.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/03/2026 19:42

HelenaWilson · 20/03/2026 19:23

I liked the imagery of 'Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea'.

Another one I liked for its imagery and tune was 'Hills of the North rejoice'.
'Isles of the southern seas
Deep in your coral caves'

Only got to sing it at Advent of course.

The words of Hills of the North have been ‘updated’…idk why or by whom but the new version lacks the charm of the original imo

new
https://hymnary.org/text/hills_of_the_north_rejoice

original
https://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/hymn-lyrics/hills_of_the_north_rejoice.htm

Hills of the North, Rejoice

Authoritative information about the hymn text Hills of the North, Rejoice, with lyrics, MIDI files, printable scores, PDF files, and piano resources.

https://hymnary.org/text/hills_of_the_north_rejoice

WhatDurhamtaughtme · 20/03/2026 19:52

LaMarschallin · 14/03/2026 18:05

At secondary school we were startled when the hymn was "There is a Green Hill Far Away" and the teacher on the piano played the "Match of the Day" theme tune 😯
Worked through.

Oh yes, we had the Match of the Day theme tune too , at youth group, words were ‘Why don’t you put your trust in Jesus…?’ Sung at a cracking pace

PropitiousJump · 20/03/2026 20:31

HelenaWilson · 20/03/2026 19:23

I liked the imagery of 'Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea'.

Another one I liked for its imagery and tune was 'Hills of the North rejoice'.
'Isles of the southern seas
Deep in your coral caves'

Only got to sing it at Advent of course.

I remember our music teacher really booming down the piano chords after that line, it was very rousing.

PropitiousJump · 20/03/2026 20:38

I'm happy to say that after listening to the 'songs to different tunes' last weekend I have had a recurrent but very cheery ear worm all week of 'Imagine' to 'The Muppet Show' 😆

TheTecknician · 20/03/2026 20:47

PropitiousJump · 20/03/2026 20:38

I'm happy to say that after listening to the 'songs to different tunes' last weekend I have had a recurrent but very cheery ear worm all week of 'Imagine' to 'The Muppet Show' 😆

Sorry.

Further thread drift but those of you familiar with 'If I Had Words' by Scott Fitzgerald and Yvonne Keeley may know it uses the melody of the second movement of Saint-Saens' Third Symphony. Similarly, 'Joybringer' by Manfred Mann's Earthband borrows from 'Jupiter' by Gustav Holst.

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sproutsandparsnips · 20/03/2026 21:13

Love this thread
And love Hills of the North Rejoice
And When Lamps are Lighted
Just to add we used to sing Summer suns are glowing when I was in school to the same tune as O Jesus I have Promised

User478 · 20/03/2026 21:28

You couldn't have When a knight won his spurs as the national anthem as I'd feel compelled to should "Face the Front David Briggs, what have you been told!"

We sing the start of Brownies song to jingle bells at Christmas.

JustGiveMeReason · 20/03/2026 21:56

Just to add we used to sing Summer suns are glowing when I was in school to the same tune as O Jesus I have Promised

though I know 3 different tunes to 'Oh Jesus I have Promised' , so this needs to be narrowed down. Grin

PropitiousJump · 20/03/2026 22:18

TheTecknician · 20/03/2026 20:47

Sorry.

Further thread drift but those of you familiar with 'If I Had Words' by Scott Fitzgerald and Yvonne Keeley may know it uses the melody of the second movement of Saint-Saens' Third Symphony. Similarly, 'Joybringer' by Manfred Mann's Earthband borrows from 'Jupiter' by Gustav Holst.

Yes, I love those songs and the original classical pieces - my mum and I used to listen to both classical and pop music together when I was a child, and she played me Manfred Mann and Scott Fitzgerald alongside the originals.

DuchessofReality · 20/03/2026 22:52

Londonmummy66 · 15/03/2026 16:37

This is rather lovely for those who like Londonderry Air https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0csns98

Wow! That is an incredible, effortless-seeming talent.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 20/03/2026 23:03

For posters mentioning 'There is a green hill far away'. I sang this for years before I realised that 'without a city wall' actually means outside a city wall.

pencilcaseandcabbage · 20/03/2026 23:43

@guinnessguzzlerThank you so much - Dear Lord and Father is my favourite hymn, and I love Neil Hannon. This version is simply stunning.

Biggermommabear · 21/03/2026 05:44

ErrolTheDragon · 20/03/2026 19:42

The words of Hills of the North have been ‘updated’…idk why or by whom but the new version lacks the charm of the original imo

new
https://hymnary.org/text/hills_of_the_north_rejoice

original
https://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/hymn-lyrics/hills_of_the_north_rejoice.htm

It was something about it being "Too Colonial" as I recall....??

emwithme · 21/03/2026 06:43

I really struggle to sing O Little Town Of Bethlehem to its own tune these days. It keeps wanting to come out to the tune of House of the Rising Sun.

The US Marine Corps hymn can also be done to Ode of Joy

guinnessguzzler · 21/03/2026 07:02

pencilcaseandcabbage · 20/03/2026 23:43

@guinnessguzzlerThank you so much - Dear Lord and Father is my favourite hymn, and I love Neil Hannon. This version is simply stunning.

You're welcome. So glad to be able to share it. I discovered it randomly when it came up on my Spotify last year some time and have listened to it a fairly bit since then.

Rhosie · 21/03/2026 08:47

Yes, thank you from me too @guinnessguzzler. We had Dear Lord and Father of Mankind at our wedding (bit of a compromise, I wanted Calon Lan but DH thought his family wouldn’t manage the Welsh) but I love it anyway.

Kingdomofsleep · 21/03/2026 09:00

Rhosie · 21/03/2026 08:47

Yes, thank you from me too @guinnessguzzler. We had Dear Lord and Father of Mankind at our wedding (bit of a compromise, I wanted Calon Lan but DH thought his family wouldn’t manage the Welsh) but I love it anyway.

I had it at mine too! I think I read it's the number 1 favourite wedding hymn. Wills and Kate had it too I think.

When I was in the throes of breastfeeding my newborns dh used to sing that jokingly at us "feed me till I want no more"

Edit to add - I think I've mixed up two hymns again haha I'm thinking of Guide Me O Thy Great Redeemer

threescoops · 21/03/2026 10:08

PropitiousJump · 20/03/2026 20:31

I remember our music teacher really booming down the piano chords after that line, it was very rousing.

The words and the music of many of these are stirring, combined they’re mightily powerful! Perfect for communal singing in a school, the services, and membership organisations. A strange phenomenon in the Catholic Church is that you open your hymn book and think “I don’t know that one” but then the tune turns out to be a familiar one. Slightly different musical traditions I suppose. Disconcerting!

franklymydearscarlett · 21/03/2026 10:31

Biggermommabear · 20/03/2026 15:46

You've got an extra "Holy" but I think you mean this one ?

I don't agree that it's dim and dreary.

This can be sung to a different tune which is a bit more rousing than this one. We sang both versions at my school probably depending on which teacher was playing the piano!