Thread 45 Starmer: Una nación que olvida su pasado no tiene futuro.

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Does it bother you what's on the notes?

I think it should stay as notable people. I think it's a great way to honour them.

Personally, I think honouring our native wildlife is a fabulous idea. Especially 🐿

Those bees on the pound coins, though - they've built up a reputation as real do-gooders but they have a sting and do use it. And that dodgy political system they have where every bee is in thrall to its Queen. They should be recalled immediately.

That would be better achieved by looking after it.

'Nature was the most popular theme in the July 2025 consultation with 60% of respondents selecting it as one of their preferred themes.'
According to Bank of England.

Yes, I agree we should do that too.

For quiz enthusiasts.

Fiver is Churchill - former Prime Minister
Tenner is Jane Austen - novelist
Twenty is JMW Turner - painter
Fifty is Alan Turing - mathematician/code breaker

Agree, though no harm done by highlighting the importance of nature on our money.

The Bank of England has only put non royals on bank notes since 1970.

Churchill only made it on there in 2016

This coin is quite sweet

Ah a little wren, how lovely.

I occasionally use cash, mainly for archery shoots because card connectivity tends to be nonexistent in the middle of the woods. I would love wildlife notes.

Wokesters of 1956!

I still use cash for small events, classes and school bake sales. I love the fact our currency is both beautiful and functional and I think wildlife etchings would enhance it. We are nature-deprived in this country and it's not a bad idea to print it on our notes, if only to remind of what we can gain if we look after it.

I agree nature should be on the notes. Democracy and all that..I would love to see Otters, Robins and wildcats on our money.

Look at some of these beauties.
Wildlife on Banknotes from Around the World - Blog | Mintage World

I was surprised to see Ed Davey signing up for the nonsense. I thought he was better than that.

I thought he was too. He’s making some very odd decisions lately - perhaps there’s something in the parliamentary water supply?

Here's a nice wildlife story. Add this to the heart melting moment today on a bus. I was taking a friend to an appointment and a little girl got on with harassed mum pushing a wee one in buggy. When they went to get off the bus the Mum said to little girl to go ahead, and as she did so she turned and said "Thank you Mr. Driver" before alighting.

I may have had something in my eye.

(Also every single waiting passenger offered my wheelchair using friend to go ahead, despite the fact it's easier to go last 😀)

It may be dreadful outside, but the future seems OK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2xynjzdzo

Agree that it is very odd about Davey.

Tom Tugendhat is unintentionally hilarious in the Telegraph today. What planet are these people on? I like to think Turing would have been scathing of this nonsense.

"Today, the child in Tonbridge holding a £50 note given by the generous aunt in the fast discarded birthday card sees the face of Alan Turing and knows she is part of something greater than herself.

This country produced a man whose mind helped win a world war and whose ideas built the foundations of the computer age. She may not articulate but the message seeps into the soul. Swap Turing for an otter and the message changes, not suddenly but subtlety and corrosively.

We’re no longer saying: “look what one of us has achieved, imagine what you could do.” Instead it says: we care less for code breakers than cuddly carnivores and the link between citizen and story is severed, and what remains is not a nation but a territory. A blank canvas on which anyone can paint and no one cares."

I thought Tugendhat had more sense than to come up with that sort of fantasy.

Hopefully the child will also learn how Turing was treated afterwards

"swap Turing for an otter"
I was thinking that didn't Turing look a bit like an otter and then remembered I was confusing him with Benedict Cumberbatch who played him in the film. But he was very otter like. Maybe a compromise would be to put Cumberbatch on the banknotes instead since that ticks both boxes in a sense.

Indeed.

So the logical conclusion is that nature is not greater than mankind.?

Ah, but you forget. He was "pardoned" so everything is now OK and nothing bad happened.

I didn't agree then. And I don't agree now.

I am remembered with an odd form of nostalgia the time when they made a fuss about a WOMAN being on a banknote.