Tourette’s/BAFTAs offensive language

[Lochroy]

I wasn’t watching, I’ve just read the article on BBC news. I will admit I know little of Tourette’s and therefore posting to understand.

The tics agree involuntary, and often use offensive language. But what I’m struggling to get my head around is excusing use of the N word because it was caused by the disability when it was (seemingly) only directed at black people?

Also presumably it’s learned vocab so children don’t have swear words as tics? How does this develop?

This man has an insight into his condition . He knows that what he says can be offensive and hurtful
Apparently the racial slur was used a few times during the awards
Can you imagine being a black person at this awards ceremony and hearing that racial slur used and being told that you are not owed an apology ?

Agree that BAFTA and the BBC are the ones at fault here. I feel sad for John and also sorry for the presenters. Both things can be true at the same time.

I would say more of a risk assessment should have been done. Some shouting out during the awards is understandable. Everyone should have been briefed. But I feel this specific situation should have been prevented from happening. Either an agreement that John would attend some but not all of the show. Making sure all presenters were fully briefed on what may happen. And then when it did happen - it should have been edited out and huge apologies issued straight away.

That did not happen. It wasn’t handled well at all.

Of course you have. It’s definitely the same situation! Aren’t you just an angel.

Apparently it doesn’t matter. Because their experience is apparently meaningless

But does he apologise to the woman he called a slag as he walked in the building? The young family he called fucking cunts in the supermarket? The delivery driver he called a cock sucking peadophile when he got his package?

He would be apologising all day long. You can clearly tell when someone's tourettes is having an outburst, it's literally forced out of their mouths.
It's 2026, we all understand tourettes (well I thought we did!).

He does the right thing in moving past it and continuing his conversations otherwise he gets upset and the outbursts go into overdrive.

There's someone in my local supermarket who has it. He screams all sorts and everyone either has a bit chuckle or completely ignores it and chats to him regardless, no one at all is offended. I'm honestly shocked people are so unaware.

The BAFTA statement given by Alan Cumming should have apologised to Messrs Jordan and Lindo prior to the inadequate explanation of Tourette’s Syndrome . Seeing the film is not the point

Why should he?

Your lack of empathy for black people hearing racial abuse shouted at them is what makes you 'a decent human being'? Or is it your determination to only see one injured party here? Wild either way.

Weren't their negative comments made after the event though? When they knew full well that the person shouting at them had tourettes?

Posters like this have such a superiority complex, it's maddening. Lucky for her/him, they don't have Tourette's, just a massive ego they can polish by going on social media to proclaim how they'd never do something like this, regardless of disability.

We all know the n word is an awful slur, it's precisely why someone with Tourette's will use it under stress due to their condition. I'm sure it hurt to hear it, but Black people are no less compassionate than anyone else so an explanation should clear it up.

But the most obvious assumption would be it’s the person who literally can’t stop yelling things. Cmon.

I think that if you know you can’t control yourself through disability, you don’t put yourself in an optional situation where you know your disability can cause problems for you or others. Alternatives are for (1) Cummings to have told the audience from the outset that this might occur at some point during the ceremony, this is what the movie is about, please don’t take it for more than it is which is a tic (nobody will have known when or in which context this tic could have manifested); (2) disable microphones near his seat; (3) give him a seat outside of earshot. The choice should have been his, whichever made him most comfortable.

The black actors to whom this was directed probably do know now it was not intentional and I think would do well to make a statement that they appreciate this was as a result of disability and not the normal racially based aggression that they are routinely on the receiving end of (which they are).

So I am to assume everything someone with Tourette’s says is just nothing to take offence with and they are some super human that never says anything offensive and mean it? You aren’t answering my question and honestly you are being patronising to the person with Tourette’s.

No, I don’t think it would be.

He didn’t abuse them he just says things he can’t help. If people are offended they should watch the film they might understand him more.

The victims shouldn’t be the ones forced to make a statement.

You think they were being abused? So you think the disabled person was abusing them?

They are healthy wealthy privileged men who knew in advance that someone with Tourette’s was in the audience. They should have been able to put their feelings to one side and have some empathy for a disabled person.

Look at the post above - usually social taboo inc profanities and racial slurs - so seeing black people made his brain go to that place

if you remember the original documentary he frequently said “mum your a cunt” when out with mum

Having money doesn’t mean it’s okay to racially abuse them!!!!

Personally I don’t look at black men and immediately start thinking of racial slurs 🥴

It actually is very much the same situation. Inappropriate things were shouted at me while I was up speaking. Instead of getting offended I had empathy. HTH.

Don’t be so ridiculous - they would face racism daily let alone hourly

money and privilege does not stop that

Guess you don't have tourettes then 🤷‍♀️

Having Tourette’s isn’t a reason to be racist.