Tourette’s/BAFTAs offensive language

[Lochroy]

I wasn’t watching, I’ve just read the article on BBC news. I will admit I know little of Tourette’s and therefore posting to understand.

The tics agree involuntary, and often use offensive language. But what I’m struggling to get my head around is excusing use of the N word because it was caused by the disability when it was (seemingly) only directed at black people?

Also presumably it’s learned vocab so children don’t have swear words as tics? How does this develop?

Just as you don't speak for all disabled people. HTH

There was an announcement at the beginning about John and his tics - but I agree, the fact the BBC aired it has been mortifying for all 3 men. They really should have taken an executive decision.
John did nothing wrong in being disabled and owes no apology.
Lindo and Jordan were clearly shocked and had a right to be upset over the word. But there’s nobody to blame.
Nobody is at fault, nobody wins. But the one thing nobody should have done was lock up the disabled person. The audience had a clear warning, they’re all grown ups and could have left if they are offended by a disabled person being in the audience

Apparently they should be locked away and gagged according to this thread

Well said

Many moons ago someone came on MN to be outraged that Brits call cigarettes fags
This was from an American who lived in the UK and found it offensive.
he couldn’t wrap his head around the fact that it’s not a slur in every country the way it is in the US.

Mate you’re the only one banging on about how you’re a black woman. Nobody else is mentioning it.

He didn’t “use a slur”
His disability caused an awful symptom to come out. in essence it wasn’t “said” by him it was said by his disability.

He also has calls people sluts. Does he have to educate himself about kitchen maids in the 15th century (which is where the origins come from)?

I’m actually baffled that all of a sudden so many people don’t understand the meaning of the word “involuntary”

To a person with Tourette’s, fat bastard and the n word have the same sentiment - as in they are not meant, there’s no intent and are part of an evil debilitating condition that is very stressful and painful to live with

Nah mate I accused YOU of having a victim parade.

Because you have - you’re all about how hurtful this has been for you whilst dismissing the feelings of disabled people, accusing them of faking their disability and calling them racist.

Yes it’s doing nothing wrong. He is not in the wrong

Can you please go away and find out what Tourette’s is. You’ve admitted you don’t know anything about it. Perhaps find out before deciding he’s in the wrong.

Yes black people should centre themselves - but you can’t expect everyone else to. BTW John works with lots of bald Tourette’s sufferers. Or did you think this was a white person disease??

His initials are JD not JA.

And if people think a lovely night is ruined by the mere presence of a disabled person perhaps they should go home

I should hope he helps hairy and bald tourettes sufferers alike 🤭

Perhaps you could find out more about Tourette’s seeing as you’ve accused JD of faking it

Why can’t audience members just leave do they’re offended by a disabled man in the room? JD had a boated movie made about him of which he was executive producer. He had as much right to be there as other producers

Ok, this is getting ridiculous now. Stop harassing me. I stopped reading this thread a few hours ago, and you are still going at me and I'm still getting notifications from you.

I NEVER admitted I 'don't know anything about Tourette's'. You're either getting me confused with another poster or you are simply making it up. Regardless, please leave me alone. I left this thread because of the disgusting and hateful racism, which is being discussed in Black Mumsnetters and elsewhere. That's how bad the racism on this thread is, it's being talked about on other sites. I am not returning to this thread because it is not my job to educate you. Now please leave me alone.

Except go to an awards ceremony for a job that he did, presumably

Am 'hiding' this disgraceful thread (thanks to the poster who told me to do this), maybe that will stop my harasser's posts.

You’ll not get anything at nighttime - they have no overnight staff.

Something that has been an issue time and time again. And is frankly ridiculous when a thread with so many deleted comments, offensive comments and so heated is running.

Good. Your ignorant, disgraceful and hate filled comments about disabled people are neither welcome nor needed.

It’s impossible to BE “irrespective” of the Tourette’s issue. You can’t take it out the equation here. Is the central theme

Seriously what are people not getting about “involuntary”
Whats hard to understand? Is it just me who’s confused?

Correct. You think disabled people shouldn’t go to awards ceremonies where their film as subject and executive producer is nominated, in case they offend people

Jesus I hope that’s not true

You need to stay well away from disabled people

You know we can all read, right?

Why are people trying to be right when there’s no right answer? JD shouldn’t be excluded and MBJ and DL shouldn’t be subjected to racial slurs on a world stage. The BBC and BAFTA are the ones at fault for not planning for this properly with educating and preparing the audience and with the on-air statement and the edit.

While people shouldn’t have to apologise for their disabilities, POC also shouldn’t have their feelings dismissed either. It’s heartbreaking that JD’s biopic winning awards has been overshadowed by this but it’s equally sad that the two actors, particularly DL who would’ve lived through the civil rights era, would have to experience this on a night where they were being celebrated too. This is the ultimate case of two things being true at the same time.