New dual nationality rule

[Poxette]

I am British, I grew up in Britain with my British family. I have a British passport.

I now live in Norway. DH is Norwegian, our DC were born here and have Norwegian passports.

Is it really true that DC need to get British passports for us to travel to the UK?!

So useful

@PatienceOfEngels you don't need to send an original. I have just got my child's first British passport and sent a colour photocopy of their other one.

You do have to send the original birth certificate - issued at birth, which was slightly trickier as my DC never had one!

There has been no advertising of this new rule for dual citizens in NZ. Most of us here and in Australia tend to visit every few years due to the huge cost - currently about 2k gbp per person just for the flight. So 4 months of adverts at the UK border is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

My passport is due to arrive next week, after being with the passport office for about 20 days. No news on the others though which also arrived there on the 5th Feb. Vague promises of 'you may be able to come in with an expired passport, or we won't really know about dual citizens ' are not enough to risk a 36 hour very expensive journey.

We were talking last night about changing our planned summer trip to Easter to better for with DCs exams. But that likely won't be possible.

I think it does depend on your circumstances. My document list shows that I do have to send my children's original current EU passport and a colour photocopy is not acceptable. For my adult renewal a colour photocopy is acceptable. The second bullet point in the image is a reference to my child's current EU passport I think?

Birth certificate - we have the same issue here as they are not issued at birth but entered onto the municipal/national register. So I need to go and get a copy of the birth details but make sure they add details from the national register to show the date we registered the birth, and include parents names and places of birth.

I received my certified copy of my lost UK birth certificate yesterday and it's very difficult to read. The old photocopy I have is better!

I've just managed to get an earlier ID card appointment so fingers crossed I will have all my documents in 10 days.

@notallthosewhotravelarelost hope your passport comes through soon! I agree the communication has been poor and I think they have underestimated how many people will be affected by this change.

Wasn't there an issue a little while ago with people accidentally getting their child benefit stopped because they e.g. flew out of the UK and got the eurostar back in?
I worry it will happen again with people going put to Europe on their EU passports and then back to the UK on their UK passports.

@Girasoli I don't think so because what will happen is when you clear UK customs leaving the UK you show your British and then when entering the EU you show your EU passport. So this may actually stop that problem happening again.

In Folkestone/Dover and Calais the foreign customs is also in the other country, so I always have to go through French customs (EU passport) and then UK customs (UK passport) before I get on the train. I can't get the Shuttle or the ferry without learning both sets of passport control. Even if I travel from Hoek van Holland where there are no UK border force, I would leave the Netherlands on my EU passport and then have to show my UK passport in Harwich to get into the UK.

With flying, if I go through Heathrow and show my EU passport for check-in for my flight to the EU, I still have to show my UK passport to the UK border control after my security check, and then my EU passport when I arrive at the EU airport.

You’re supposed to pass British borders with your U.K. passport and EU border with your EU passport. Not using one passport to go out agd one to go back to the U.K. on both borders.

fwiw when you take the Eurostar, you will clear,y oresent your passport twice, once for each border. Eurostar is actually great because they are very used to dual nationals so won’t bat an eye lid to you fumbling between the two passports.

Thanks both, at the moment it's me on an EU passport and DH and the DC on UK passports but we are trying to sort out dual nationality for everyone over the next year or two.

We finally got our new UK passports last week.

It took us 2 weeks to gather the documents required, then 33 days from application to receiving new passports. 47 days in total!

The total cost for renewing mine (expected) and applying for passports for the kids (not expected as didn't know they were automatic dual nationals until now) with all the documents required was €900. Next time it should be cheaper (half?) to renew all 3 without having to arrange the documents.

But still waiting for return of documents....which includes their EU passports which we need for travel as well.

Irish passport to enter is fine even for dual nationals. This is thanks to the Anglo Irish Agreement signed way back in (iirc) the 1930s).

Thanks for the replies, I forgot I made this thread.

We are delaying getting the British passports until after our summer holiday. We need to send their existing passports, not photocopies.

I started an application just to see what we would need. I went through the whole thing, uploaded a photo and everything. I‘ll attach a photo of what they want me to send.

DH parents are dead and I have no contact with my dad, who is divorced from my mum and they are both remarried. Not sure how I can do this!

Photo should show soon!

@Poxette you just need to order copies of their documents from the GRO website. I had to do the same thing.

OP, I am Norwegian living in the UK and my children dual nationals. Until recently they only had Norwegian passports as never saw a need for Uk passports especially after Brexit,but they now have to bring both when travelling. They have to travel into Norway on their Norwegian passports and then into UK on their UK passport. On our most recent trip, I accidentally uploaded their Norwegian passport when checking in and this was rejected and we had to check in at the airport.

I am not. British citizen and travel in and out on my Norwegian passport and it’s automatically linked to my leave to remain status.

Its another of the great many benefits of Brexit 😵‍💫

Yep, these docs should be available on GRO as long as you know details like dates, places, full names.

I presume you must be born 1983 or later if they want grandparents details. I'm not sure why they want all 4 grandparents details though - even just your mother's information if she is British and born in the UK should be enough.

A lot of people are sending a signed letter explaining why certain information is unavailable. Join the UK passport waiting times group and you'll find lots of people in similar situations sharing tips/experiences.