New dual nationality rule

[Poxette]

I am British, I grew up in Britain with my British family. I have a British passport.

I now live in Norway. DH is Norwegian, our DC were born here and have Norwegian passports.

Is it really true that DC need to get British passports for us to travel to the UK?!

But if you need the British passport for your kids to get into the U.K. why don’t you just renew the passports when you’re in the UK?

If you don’t come to the U.K. then you don’t need the passports.

This is incorrect. ETA was introduced last year and a family member visiting me in the summer hols had to sort it out prior to entering the UK.

You’re ok if you’re Irish. I’m dual British/Irish but my British passport expired recently. Had a minor panic last week as I’m going abroad in March…. But it’s ok. Irish citizens have the right to live and work in the Uk and this rule does not apply. Sadly it will be applicable to all other dual nationals I believe.

We live in the UK. We renew those in the post, easy. But my kids also need American passports as we are immigrants and that’s a total faff. I was commiserating with the people having to do this for the first time as it’s definitely super annoying to maintain multiple passports.

Ah given the thread I thought it was people all complaining about the British rule.

Well the upshot of that is that British government actually makes applying very easy and so Brits should stop complaining!

I am not sure about German rules but my native Sweden makes it near impossible to get a Swedish passport sorted in UK due to embassy not having enough available appointments. So I will advise my MIL to look into this asap despite her having lived here for over 45 years.
As for myself, I have lived in U.K. longer than I have my birth country and I genuinely thought becoming a British citizen would stop all the hassle of having to travel back home to renew passport every 5 years. Perhaps this was naive of me, but I fear there are many naive people in the world affected by this. I went through a lot to become British and it was a proud day for me. I genuinely had no idea I could be turned away from EU because my EU passport expired. Now I know and I’m not sure I have enough time to resolve it due to health and work reasons.
As for my children, we definitely don’t have enough time to resolve this before ETIAS is meant to start.

There must be a way for dual citizens to be allowed to travel in order to get this resolved surely. I’d be happy to pay for the children to get an ETIAS, they are British born and never really visit my home country.
I cannot believe they’ve inherited this problem through me, I feel like a villain.

Sorry, which part is incorrect? I’d love for my source to be incorrect!!
ETA is the British system that starts next week. ETIAS is the EU version.

I think that the new digital certificates of entitlement don’t expire, and can be linked a new passport whenever you renew a passport.

I don’t know how much they cost, but it might work out cheaper - and certainly less hassle - to get one of those for your DC, instead of applying for British passports? I think they are being introduced at the end of February.

This is a new rule. My dcs are US/UK dual citizens living in the UK. They've always had to enter and exit the US on their US passports, but could use their US passports to enter/exit the UK. Now they will have to bring their UK and US passports to go on holiday to the US. DH is also a dual citizen, so we have to bring 6 passports for the 3 of them (I'm just a UK citizen). It doesn't seem an odd rule to me since we're quite used to having to do it for the US. We've always made sure dcs have both passports as the UK one is useful for ID and the US one is needed because we go back there every year. It's a bit of an admin pain and a cost to maintaining multiple passports, but then there's potentially a huge advantage to it in future (speaking as a citizen of one country) that I think it's a small price to pay.

ETA had been brought in gradually, so depends on which country people are citizens of. It comes in fully for everyone next week, including this rule about dual citizens using UK passports.

Post-Brexit I’d get the paperwork sorted to ensure your children have EU citizenship.

Why? They are Norwegian, their lives are here. We go to the UK about once every two years (I don’t have much of a relationship with my family). It never crossed my mind to get them British passports, unless they wanted to live there in the future.

Yes this is true. British citizens if dual nationals must have British passport to get into UK. Think it starts end of Feb.

Yes, however I don’t know how the Uk are going to know if someone has dual citizenship- unless that persons declares it on a previous passport application. There is no ‘official list’ You don’t have to register as you do in other countries.

Same situation for my kids - they’ve never lived in the states, they’ve never even visited their 3rd nationality but they have to have all 3 for that reason. Could look into renouncing when they’re older but for the states it’s £££ and you have to be over 18

They wouldn’t.
Personally I have found the Uk government to have very little interest in helping their citizens abroad so I find it very frustrating that a a citizens of another country I’m obliged to do this. And unless it is declared there is really no way that they will know.

This link may help people.

https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizenship

You don’t generally don’t need to be in the country to renew your passport. We are all dual citizens and renew our passports for our home
country here in the U.K. without difficulty, through the embassy.

Australia used to make you go to Australia House in London to renew your passport (I always quite enjoyed doing it but it is easy for me as I live and work in London). But they have dropped that requirement now and you can do it all remotely now.

This is not true. You no longer have to register a citizen birth born abroad and you never had to claim citizenship when born British.

But as Norwegians, they will need an ETA. I think the ETA form either asks whether you have British citizenship or asks questions that enables them to work out that you do. So unless you actually lie - which would be a very dumb idea - they will know and refuse to issue the ETA

Unfortunately this is not the case. The OP's children are British citizens by birth and as such will need either a British passport or a (very expensive) 'certificate of entitlement' in their Norwegian passport.

It's strangely led to the situation where EU citizens with settled status in the UK are in a 'better' situation than anyone else. They don't need etias to go to the EU and they don't need an ETA to come to the UK

My son has Polish and British passport and we have to use his Polish passport while crossing Polish border, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it became a thing in the UK

Except I recently had the problem of one of my passports, the British one being lost. I was able to travel back on my other nationality passport and easily order a new British passport. That won’t be doable now. I’d have to get an emergency travel doc from a British embassy to get on my return flight.