New dual nationality rule

[Poxette]

I am British, I grew up in Britain with my British family. I have a British passport.

I now live in Norway. DH is Norwegian, our DC were born here and have Norwegian passports.

Is it really true that DC need to get British passports for us to travel to the UK?!

Heh he except the UK doesn’t recognise the Spanish law against dual nationality and considers the British expats to still be British.

It still doesn’t meant two bookings though, when they scan your passport they know you have another, so you just show both, at the moment we find Manchester like seeing both.

That’s what I have encountered as well. Then when I booked one way trips, I was still pulled up on entering on one passport and then trying to leave that country on a different one.

I've never had an issue.

Always present my UK passport at UK border control and EU passport at EU border control.

I present the passport that I used for API to check-in and gate staff.

My UK passport states that I have dual nationality and lists the details of my EU passport.

I always travel with both passports.

So none of your travel documents matched the passport number you had given the airline? That wouldn’t be the case for dual nationals as they could just show both passports.

At the moment is what is key here. These changes are happening in multiple countries all at once and with little coordination.

I don’t think it’s a money grab. British passports are cheap compared to a lot of other countries - it possibly costs more to process them than you pay to get one. It’s about Britain knowing how many people are in the country, who they are, what nationalities they are, and having accurate info about how many are citizens. Not unreasonable for the government to want this data.

This is a really good point - having two citizenships is overall a huge boon for anyone. Two places you have a right to live and work, the right to NHS treatment when in the U.K. and potentially all kinds of other advantages. Taking out a child’s passport 4 times (birth, age 5, age 10, age 15) and then every ten years as an adult is a really small price to pay for all that it gives you.

Is it also a money grab that the EU are doing it?

They already have this data and have for years.

No matter what passport I use, the UK knows who I am and that I am British citizen.

This is why when you get or renew your British passport you have to send in ALL your other passports too. Every other country requires this too.

All your nationalities and passports info plus your biometrics (facial, fingerprints) are loaded on the biometric chips of all your passports.

if your passport was issued before you took another citizenship, they won't know you have another. And the Germans don't give two hoots that i have another passport, that question never arose.

Yes. It is.

i don't think it's a money grab - given the price of the ETA etc, and the price of a passport (even the hugely overpriced UK ones) - there can't be much profit in it, given the production costs.

If that were the only price. I already keep current passports but the hassle and costs to comply with the rules is getting to be a lot more money, and a lot more complex.

in that case i had only one passport and had written the number incorrectly. They had such connipations i was really worried something truly awful had happened.

I am wary of showing 2 passports, since the absolute melon of a french customs guy - on receipt of 2 passports, one EU one British - stamped my British passport with an exit stamp, totally contrary to the actual real and operative rule for at least the last 5 years.

Every £ charged is a £ less of government money that needs to be spent on what historically governments were responsible for paying for- ie border controls. The cost of border controls are how being pushed onto travellers.

So our taxes that the UK government used to spend to control the borders, they are still raising AND they are now stealth taxing travel for dual nationals - even travel for family emergencies and work. It’s not just a holiday tax.

French customs is unpredictable.

I’ve been trying to go down that route since 2018 but as of yet have not come across any available appointments. It’s carnage and most unhelpful. This is incredibly stressful.

they are not allowed to stamp the passports under those circs, luckily for me it was an exit stamp on a shiny new passport, with no entry stamp. I only noticed when i gave it to the British guy and he pointed it out.

Wondering now what would happen if i gave German passport to the French chap, and then 20 metres later, at the British booth gave him my lovely blue one...

I don’t know if anyone can answer this question here plus it’s very theoretical at the moment… I’m an EU national with settled status, married to a British man. I’ve been thinking about getting British citizenship but I see on these new rules that names in each passport have to match. My question is this: I have kept my maiden name but my passport lists as an addition my “spousal” name. Does that mean that if I still don’t change my name, I have to change my EU passport so it doesn’t list my spousal name? I’m not even sure how optional it is to have it, tbh!

I guess it’s needs must. I am the other extreme and very fortunate. I work across the street from Australia house. When my dds passport was up for renewal I said to my boss I will be back in five. A different story when I lived in the US. I guess if you need the passport you just have to get it. My sil has four. It’s crazy keeping up with the expiry dates

Great, another thing I get to go to court for.
We live in the EU, both children have dual nationality (one born in the UK, the other here). Neither of them have ever had a British passport because that was STBXH's job to sort out....since he's British. They've had their EU passports right from a few weeks old. My ex is now refusing to engage with any paperwork (and didn'tget DC1's passport sorted while we were still living in the UK, either), so I assume should we ever want to visit the UK (and I'd like to go and visit some of our friends when things are more settled), it'll be another thing to organise.

Brexit...the gift that gives on giving...

@PurpleThistle7 @FiatLuxAdAstra you can apply for a first child (British) passport online. You need to have an email address of a non-related, British citizen with a valid passport who will id a photo of them. You can send a colour photocopy of their other passport, you don't need to send the actual passport. No interviews or visits to embassies involved.

I do as do my kids. I’m worried about this.

But as per Spanish rules you should have renounced your British citizenship when you chose to take Spanish.