Do you remember this Covid news footage?

[Sitonyourdressmavis]

Chatting to SIL last night and we were remembering news footage we watched before the Christmas of Covid when the news was coming out of China about this virus. We clearly remember watching as a family news footage (would have been on BBC normal news not online) from China of people collapsing and fitting in the streets then being zipped up on stretchers and body bags and loaded into a black and yellow van by hazmat suited doctors/army. We all clearly remember this , it was not a film. What was this footage? Covid didn't present like that at all? We remember being really scared. SiL is a nurse and we remember her saying "what the hell is this thing"
Anyone else remember this footage?

Exactly. I’m staggered at all these people who are insisting that their memory cannot be wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Honestly I have no idea why can’t find anything. But yes a mystery virus not named or identified yet.

If you can't find any evidence isn't it more likely it was just the annual news reports about winter viruses and flu and now with hindsight your memory has linked it what you know happened next.

No. Because it felt different. I had previously followed news on swine and bird flu. That didn’t worry me. Thai felt different.

I also clearly remember saying in work about extended Easter holidays to help control it. And colleagues telling me not to be ridiculous! Then 6 months of closure happened.

It’s ok to believe something different. My memory is different to yours.

Easter is a long way from before Christmas, we were in lockdown by the end of March.

Not before Christmas no, but the end of that December. I don’t know how we heard the first mention of it, we had family in the far East so it was quite possible from them.

But there is no proof of what you claim to remember. That's not me trying to say you don't think it happened but without concrete proof and all the evidence to suggest you are indeed misremembering why would you be so reluctant to believe that it might be possible your memory isn't accurate, it's not a failing it's just a part of being human?

But memory is fallible. You can’t just claim something is different when there is overwhelming evidence that it didn’t happen how you remember.

Yes on 31 December 2019.

All this puts me in mind of the photograph of the Thunderbird.

Back in the days of the Wild West there was a story going about that some cowboys had shot this huge bird, not unlike a pterodactyl, huge thing with a wingspan of several metres.
The story was published in various ‘tales of the Wild West’ type books.
The story was then published in a magazine in the 1960s with embellishments including that there had been a photograph. Loads of people claimed that they had seen the photograph and it was published in the National Geographic or other such esteemed publications.
These magazines are well archived and have been searched but there is no such photograph. Yet people swore up and down that not only was this story true but that they clearly remember seeing the photograph but they didn’t keep the magazine.
False memory is a real thing, like it or not.

www.truewestmagazine.com/article/tombstone-thunderbird/

If I’ve got something wrong I have no problem saying so.
but I really remember this.
yes I get that WHO didn’t identify it till New Year’s Eve. But this thing had been circulating prior to that.

Yes two different memories of different occasions. I was just sharing.

It's not that the WHO didn't identify it until NYE - it wasn't even reported to them until then. Yes, there was a problem in China before this point, but it wasn't widely known until early January - unless anyone can prove otherwise. Which they haven't so far.

Yes there was a virus in China, and the Chinese government might well have been covering it up or at least keeping it quiet, but random people in the U.K. didn’t know about it before early January 2020.
There is no mention on MN or Twitter for example. If everyone knew about it no one was talking about it.

What exactly did you write in your diary? It's very well known that memory is incredibly unreliable - far more unreliable than most of us think. Derren Brown did an interesting programme on it to prove it.

The first covid case is generally agreed to be on 17 November 2019 in Wuhan China, with the first official case on 1 December 2019. First hospitalisations were on 8 December 2019, and some social media chatter in Wuhan China started from mid December 2019. The first sample was sent on 24 December. The first international report was on 30 December at 23:35:00. You will find 1000s of people now saying they had covid in November/ December 2019 but they didn't.

It’s terrifying to think that some of these people could be on juries or giving evidence in court someday.

The unbelievable arrogance of thinking they somehow knew about Covid before the doctors on the ground in Wuhan and the WHO.

They can’t for a second even consider that they’ve misremembered things by a few weeks or got confused.

They have to be right and it’s the whole universe that must be wrong.

I remember seeing footage of people (I think) in a subway or underground station lying on the floor, it might have been the SARS outbreak?

I totally forgot about Italy having such an awful time. Our schools were still open then if I remember rightly. We were watching that then going to work and encouraging 4 year olds to socially distance...

Italy was very scary. Body bags outside hospitals as I recall. I remember that school was still open.

Italy was around February half term as loads of people had been off skiing

I’m sorry that you’re being gaslighted and or patronised by so many posters on your thread.

I remember it OP. It was a “mystery virus” in China, then it became the “Wu flu” and then it was termed COVID.

I can’t find anything before 3.1.2020 on the bbc though. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-50984025#:~:text=Chinese%20authorities%20have%20launched%20an,%22%2C%20officials%20said%20on%20Friday.

As an aside I do remember at the time thinking the whole thing would end up being a huge fuss over nothing- not sure I could have been more wrong.

@AFrogInABog your early memory of the virus (before we all knew all about it) is probably right, except the dates. You didn't hear about it in December. It's ok to get muddled about dates and such a massive event, but we're not "gaslighting" OP by telling her (and you) that she didn't see into the future

What rubbish? It did come from bats.