Do you remember this Covid news footage?

[Sitonyourdressmavis]

Chatting to SIL last night and we were remembering news footage we watched before the Christmas of Covid when the news was coming out of China about this virus. We clearly remember watching as a family news footage (would have been on BBC normal news not online) from China of people collapsing and fitting in the streets then being zipped up on stretchers and body bags and loaded into a black and yellow van by hazmat suited doctors/army. We all clearly remember this , it was not a film. What was this footage? Covid didn't present like that at all? We remember being really scared. SiL is a nurse and we remember her saying "what the hell is this thing"
Anyone else remember this footage?

You might do but that doesn't mean it was referring to what was eventually named COVID. Every year there's stories about a virus, flu or other diseases especially in winter.

This might have been what I saw but it was different from anything we have seen before (I remember the SARS outbreak and seeing all the protective measures on the subway years before. This seemed very different

I remember tracking the news story. I think it was Covid.

I also used to keep
an eye on stories about bird flu. But this one was different. It worried me at the time. I take an interest in viruses as I studied virology at uni.

Even worse thank checking on the internet, some people on the thread are relying on AI to tell them what happened during that period 😱

Mandela effect phenomenon is strong on this thread

I travelled in early Jan to northern Italy and at the time there was a talk of a virus in China, I didn't pay heed nor did anyone else. A week or so later DS became very ill and stayed ill for a long time. We had him swabbed and tested but he turned a corner and recovered quickly after that. Weeks later the Italy story broke and we all know what went down after that. I was absolutely terrified that DS had brought it to Europe, genuinely freaking out. When I phoned the Dr and asked them to pull out the results they said it was definitely influenza and nothing unusual about the swab. I was so so grateful that we had tested.

This is why people have asked for the exact wording in your diary. Scary news story and the video you describe could be two separate events your mind has conflated together (memories are edited over time, every time we re-remember something).

So, what was the exact wording of the letter and the news?

Well yes, it was almost certainly in the country by February, given the number of English people who went skiing in Italy over the February half term. Once it was here it started spreading rapidly, hence we went in to lockdown in a (too late, failed) attempt to stop it.

in fact, the first confirmed case in the uk was 30th January 2020 - someone who traveled here from china.

I don’t think it was here in November/december though. Because then our death rate would have been rising unexpectedly as it spread through the population in late 2019, rather than waiting til Feb/march 2020. Much more likely the Nov/dec cases were flu which has a lower mortality rate.

Nothing to add except I find the topic of memories fascinating and if I could have my time over again would certainly study it.

I am amazed by how many people are saying if it’s not on the internet then it never happened - we all know things can be deleted as though they were never there so that regular people can no longer find them.

Oh and I also had the worst flu/cold I have ever had at the end of Dec 2019 (not had it for years) yet never caught covid once we knew about covid and I can categorically say that as I was part of the monthly testing thingy where they came to your house every month to test you (£25 a person we got paid to do it! And we did it for 2 years 🤣) and I tested negative every single time alongside doing work testing twice a week. So I do believe it was here earlier than we think.

eta Office of National Statistics did the testing

I don’t follow your logic. Why does you having a cold/flu in 2019 and managing to avoid Covid in 2020 mean Covid was here earlier?

I honestly think it was covid in Dec 2019. I haven’t had flu or cold or anything like it for over 15 years. My colleagues thought I was being dramatic. But when they all started getting ill they described exactly the same as how I had felt. Nobody will ever know if I had it or not - I just find it interesting

I work in health but not physical but my friend works in a super-hospital as a Band 8 and was saying it was a lot of fuss and wouldn't amount to much until a few weeks before the 1st lockdown with reports from Italy and he then said shit, this might actually be bad.

We'd both been through swine flu, bird flu and other SARS and flu pandemic alerts over many years when the NHS starts preparing, so we were quite used to it and it didn't seem hugely different at first.

Yes… they’re all very defensive and outraged at any news and media sources which would suggest they’re mistaken.

Yet not a single person claiming they’re ‘sure’ they knew about Covid in November / pre Christmas 2019 has been able to share one solitary news story, article, social media post, or photos of supposed letters and diaries talking about it pre-NYE 2019!

And yet the virus was eventually given a name ... COVID-19.

Not COVID-20.

Because I don’t keep a log of all
the news stories I’ve ever read.
The story I recall was about a mystery virus.

but from a quick google:

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/wuhan-high-school-classes-shut-over-mystery-virus-as-early-as-november-2019/news-story/419453a881bd7d92209d42966cb7b6a1

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-china-first-case-b1724282.html

Because it started in 2019 (no one is denying that!) and was flagged to the WHO and first reported on NYE AKA the 31st December 2019!

You might win something for daftest comment on here.

But why would the articles and posts people claim they saw in November and early December not be possible to find now? What are people on here suggesting? There’s been some coordinated cover up of the entire internet for no logical reason?

The article you just shared is from 2021!

The footage that Sky news showed from Italy a week or so before our lockdown was old footage of a disaster that had happened years previously ( showing a row of coffins )
I can remember it plain as day and someone on line remarked it wasn’t of Coronavirus ( as it was called before it became Covid 19)
Boris Johnson wrote a piece for the Times and the following week we had our own lockdown. I do feel it was because of what was happening in Italy , but it was also the nudge effect too at play because the media were pushing for lockdown. We were told 12 weeks, but it went on longer than that of course.

I wonder if it was a film about the flu outbreak after the First World War I think people did just collapse and die in the street I certainly saw a programme about it though when it was I don’t know.

Not on the same scale (obviously) but even Mumsnet delete posts - as in delete as though they never existed not a ‘deleted by Mumsnet’ quote. Just gone. It really isn’t implausible that other websites/news websites delete things so that the everyday person can no longer find them is it?

I know. It was just a quick google. But I clearly remember reading about it in November 2019.
one article is from Nov 2020. Stating that Covid started a year ago.

There is a photo that appears on Facebook occasionally of people in hazmat suits and the driver isn’t wearing one at all. It doesn’t look real to me, but who knows. So many fake photographs around amongst the real ones.

Every single website and source of information online and offline?

So Facebook, YouTube, every news website, Reddit etc. they have all engaged in a mass conspiracy to delete any references to Covid prior to NYE 2019?

Who organised them all to do this? Why? I’m intrigued.

I remember going to stay in a premier inn in Derbyshire for the weekend 2 weeks before lockdown (it had to be then because the following friday my ds had a cold and his school wouldn’t allow him to attend and that was the week before lockdown started) Anyway, in the premier inn there were signs everywhere about keeping distance and nobody was touching any door handles with their bare hands. Yet we also went to museums and restaurants and there was no change at all. So some were taking it seriously and some places weren’t