Do you remember this Covid news footage?

[Sitonyourdressmavis]

Chatting to SIL last night and we were remembering news footage we watched before the Christmas of Covid when the news was coming out of China about this virus. We clearly remember watching as a family news footage (would have been on BBC normal news not online) from China of people collapsing and fitting in the streets then being zipped up on stretchers and body bags and loaded into a black and yellow van by hazmat suited doctors/army. We all clearly remember this , it was not a film. What was this footage? Covid didn't present like that at all? We remember being really scared. SiL is a nurse and we remember her saying "what the hell is this thing"
Anyone else remember this footage?

I guess, but my point still stands, if it was being reported in China then as a coronavirus doesn't it stand to reason that a strange new virus news reports could've happened prior to this? I was living in South East Asia at the time, I'm pretty sure it was being reported, not as Covid.

I think I saw this. There were Asian viruses, which didn’t cause a pandemic, before Covid. I think they thought they were just reporting on the next one. A colleague’s wife had just retired and they were going on a 3 week tour of China, and I remember thinking about him infecting us when he came back! In the end they went to vietnam instead.

You summarised. You didn't quote. If you gave us the exact words people might be able.to be more helpful.

I remember this too,OP. It was before Christmas. I remember a few people at work were unwell and were not getting better for weeks. They kept on saying “this feels worse than the flu”.

To be fair to @Brewtiful they’ve only ever queried the timeline of memory unlike some other posters who outright deny such videos were ever broadcast as serious news items

On January 25th, 2020, I wrote: 'browsed the increasingly alarming news about the coronavirus, including footage of Chinese people collapsing in the street and being removed by men in protective suits. The news seemed to peak in the middle of the night and has calmed a bit now.'

Apparently there was already at least one thread on Mumsnet about it by then - which is why I started to look.

It wasn't though. All that post acknowledges is that looking back we can see that in China they announced some people had flu like symptoms. No different to us looking back to December 2019 where I'm sure you can find news reports of flu cases being reported in this country.

The first cases of Covid-19 were around the 17th November 2019. The first report that was picked up by the WHO was on the 31st December 2019.

whatever you saw, it definitely was not about Covid-19! https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/interactive-timeline#!

You are not going mad op. We knew about a virus late the year before. I was first told about it the October before, virus in China by an NCT mum!

I don't remember it at all. I do recall based on the limited information in the public domain in early February 2020 thinking that the virus was probably no more serious than previous SARS viruses. For which I was greatly wrong.

Could it be that your diary entry was about a different worrying illness in China that was being reported on? This is dated 20 November 2019 so might have still been in the news in December or there may have been another one? https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/50474666
I can imagine parents asking about that and being told it was a different region etc so would explain some of your other points.
Have you specifically mentioned in your diary that what was being reported was to do with a respiratory virus, SARS, flu, pneumonia or any of those words?

Thank you. I'm genuinely not saying there were not such scaremongering videos released but they were not being reported on by the BBC in early December 2019. I will concede otherwise if factual evidence emerges.

The World Military Games were held in Wuhan, China in October 2019 and there were cases of significant numbers of soldiers from various countries, presenting with Covid type respiratory symptoms on their return home.

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/military-games-in-wuhan-linked-to-early-covid-cases-raising-questions-about-defense-department-report-wuhan-china-service-members

ianbirrell.com/call-for-probe-into-covid-outbreak-at-wuhan-games-2-months-before-world-was-alerted/

That's what I was referring to also, earlier.

Even the WHO didn’t know about it until the 31/12/2019. There was no international news about it until after this!

There was a lot of stockpiling of food and medicines during 2019 as there was still the fear of a Brexit no deal. Remember Operation Yellowhammer. Is some of the news of medical preparedness being confused with this?

The first date on that timeline is 30 December. It doesn't back up the BBC having reported it on the 18th.

Memory is fascinating. As are false memories.

There was a thread about the claimed walkers colour change a few years ago which was amazing as so many people reported remembering it happen very specifically. The problem being the 'memories spanned' about 20 years! Some people had specific memories of talking about it in school and they were in primary so must've been 1985 or so, from other people remembering it happening when they were at uni in the mid-90s, others remembered it happening and they talked about it in the pub around 2002. Everybody claimed to have a very specific memory of it.

I thought I remembered it happening in the 80s when I was at primary school and it being headline news in the tabloids. All made up by my brain.

It didn't happen at all, let alone it being announced in the newspapers.

Memories aren't really memories, they're reconstructions of things and easily influenced.

So people read 'remember when walkers changed colours' and think yeah, I remember that, it was when I.... and conflate different things that did or simply did not happen.

You can show them old crisp packets from years before they claimed they remembered the colour change and instead of admitting they must be wrong, they say walkers must be lying or there's some kind of glitch in the matrix or 'the mandela effect'.

Same for all the people that remember seeing the plane hit the first tower live on TV on 9/11 in 2001. Didn't happen. News reports started after the 1st tower had been hit and so many people saw the 2nd tower being hit live on TV.

The footage of the 1st tower being hit that everyone claimed to remember seeing live was shot by a documentary film-maker Jules Naudet who was making a docu about the NY fire dept and just happened to be there to film the 1st tower being hit but that wasn't aired on TV till 2002.

Of course a random NCT mum knew more than the World Health Organisation.🤣

Just when you think the thread can't get any more ridiculous.

We thought something was kicking off in China earlier than those BBC reports. My dad was in NZ visiting my sister and we got him home over NY because he was travelling through Shanghai and we were worried. I’ve just checked my Amazon and I ordered sanitizer and face masks in mid January. I think maybe there were weird videos on social media and maybe that was reported on television rather than anything official because I wouldn’t have directly seen social media posts. We went away on Jan 5th ourselves for a birthday celebration and I was definitely not happy about flying. I’m not sure when the tracker from John Hopkins went up but I followed it daily and it was obvious very soon that we would follow the Chinese trajectory.

The film Contagion was a blueprint for what they did, down to the most minor of details. They used actors for those scenes and yes, we saw it and called bull immediately we watched it. It was designed to create enough fear for people to take the jab and it worked, with millions of people. Fortunately, we saw through it all from day 1. Very effective filming that was and it got the desired result. Bet no one can find it online now, I know I can’t.

@PurpleLeather

taps nose good job you knew the secret though, eh.

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Hahahahaha how. By picking apart my exact wording and saying i must have seen it on a different day ? Or a dream I had? My diary is so boring this is practically the same quote

Ie saw a scary report on the news...
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I don't remember video of people fitting in the street. But I do remember reports of people collapsing and it being treated as a sort of super pneumonia the Chinese government was extremely concerned about. I think the thought was it would be the next SARS.

That was definitely December. Then the whole thing seemed to really take off when it spread to a ski resort in Italy in January. But I remember I'd been keeping one eye on it for it a few weeks until then. I wanted to go for a holiday after Christmas and was afraid they'd shut down flights. (Which was exactly what they ended up doing.) To this day I refer to Covid as starting in 2019, and then have to correct myself to "but basically 2020" because it confuses people.

Do you think when millions of people were dying during that almost unimaginable pandemic, and misinformation was so dangerous, and we were all so scared, the posters thought better of their scare-mongering tactics amongst social reprehension against lies and removed videos and / or platforms did? I kept reporting them and I know others did too. I keep forgetting how much credulity was also a victim of covid