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Here’s how a child dies of measles

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Shuffletoesxtreme · 14/02/2026 21:01

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/child-dies-measles-vaccines/685969/

60 cases in London, where vaccinations are lowest in the country.

This Is How a Child Dies of Measles

When your family becomes a data point in an outbreak

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/child-dies-measles-vaccines/685969/

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rememberingthem · 14/02/2026 22:28

My youngest DS was in intensive care with measles as he caught it 2 weeks before his vaccine was due. He is now partially deaf among other issues…people who don’t vaccinate their children make me sick!

cardibach · 14/02/2026 22:28

AnxiousUniParent · 14/02/2026 22:27

https://www.ncmd.info/publications/child-death-review-data-release-2025/#:~:text=There%20were%203%2C492%20child%20(0,remained%20higher%20than%202019%2D20... I couldn't easily find an analysis.. sorry.. but based on the fact that there is 1 death due to measles, this is a clue that the other 3,492 were not measles. (apologies.. I trnasposed the 4 and 9 in my head when reading.. and read this as 3,942) .

Yes, but that’s probably because of the vaccine. If everyone stops getting it done because ‘nobody dies of measles’ people (children) will, in fact, die of measles.

Charlizeangles · 14/02/2026 22:28

cardibach · 14/02/2026 22:19

There are lots of reasons vaccines are given together. To refuse all because you don’t feel you need one of them, nit because there’s any harm in it sould be bonkers. Plus have they not seen a case of shingles? It’s not fun. You don’t get it if you haven’t had chicken pox.

Yes I have! I've had shingles, I was just giving an observation, I'm not saying it's right I'm just saying what was said. My daughter was also advised that doe to a history of febrile convulsions in our family that her oldest when has already had chicken pox probably shouldn't have the mmrv just the MMR. Like I said just personal probably just a anecdotal opinion.

thetinsoldier · 14/02/2026 22:35

Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2026 22:13

My twin brother died of measles aged 5 in 1962.

I’m so sorry. 💐

Mcdhotchoc · 14/02/2026 22:41

There was a child in my nephews class ( he is 36 now) when he was 6. She caught measles and was left blind by it.

LauRRen144 · 14/02/2026 22:41

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Bobbybobbins · 14/02/2026 22:42

My sister and I had measles at the same time as pre-school age children pre the vaccination programme, plus mumps a few months later. We were lucky not to be too poorly with either but I’m sure my parents were incredibly worried.

Funnywonder · 14/02/2026 22:42

Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2026 22:13

My twin brother died of measles aged 5 in 1962.

That is so sadFlowers

Apparently I had measles when I was a baby in 1967. The vaccine arrived the following year when my sister was born, but it wasn’t widely available and she ended up catching measles when she was in P1. My brother was born in 1971 and was vaccinated. He didn’t catch measles. I do remember having mumps when I was about 4 or 5. The pain was horrendous. I had my dad’s scarf wrapped round my neck which felt swollen and solid, like it was going to burst.

Goinggreymammy · 14/02/2026 22:47

I wasnt vaccinated with MMR as a child. My father was a suspicious sort. I was lucky I suppose that I was 18 when I did eventually get measles. I was at college and I'll never forget how unwell I was, I couldn't even stand up.

@mylovelygreendress im so sorry for your loss.

I wish all those vaccination sceptics would read the true stories of how awful measles is.

KeepOffTheQuinoa · 14/02/2026 22:54

I worked with a woman who was blind following childhood measles. She will be mid-60s now.

And I was on the board of a charity with an older man who got shingles in his eye and it went into his brain and caused his death.

These are mild diseases.

Charlizeangles · 14/02/2026 23:03

Just to add incase anyone thinks I'm minimizing any of this illness I had all of them measles at 14 months, mumps at 8 and rubella at 10 and although I am absolutely fine I completely agree with and encourage these vaccines and all my children and grandchildren have had them!

TIGGRx · 14/02/2026 23:22

May get shot down for this. America don’t recommend the MMRV vaccine for under 4 y/o. For those 2 and under - the age that we vaccinate at, there’s a 2 x chance of any type of seizure with MMRV than with MMR and a separate varicella vaccine. There’s no option to give it separately and you have to pay privately to do so. That’s what I’ll do for my youngest Dc, my eldest had theirs pre-MMRV.

Noshadelamp · 14/02/2026 23:29

Isadora2007 · 14/02/2026 21:04

It’s a paid read. Copy and paste the story?

Copy and paste the link into archive.ph

Meteorite87 · 14/02/2026 23:32

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/02/2026 22:20

Decades ago when my children were little, I remember reading in a book about childrearing by Penelope Leach how nasty measles was, and how even if your child had one of the milder cases and made a complete recovery from it, you should expect to have to spend at least a week and probably more nursing the child through the worst of it - child in bed, properly ill and miserable. Who would want that for their child if it could be avoided? And nowadays, when it's so common for both parents to be working full-time, how would you manage to get that amount of time off between you?

I caught measles when I was 10 years old. No complications but I still remember feeling very unwell for a while.

At the time I was due my first vaccinations (late 1970's), my mum was told by Drs that it wasn't a good idea for me to have a measles vax as I had asthma.

As a teenager I had the MMR jab with no problems.

AGlessandahalf · 14/02/2026 23:37

We really need to publicise the benefits of MMR and the consequences of not vaccinating. Especially now that the link to autism has been debunked

MudMyNameIsMud · 14/02/2026 23:39

Charlizeangles · 14/02/2026 22:10

Not sure how true or relevant this is? But my daughter took her baby for their first set of immunizations yesterday and the nurse said the MMR uptake had dropped in their area since the addition of the chicken pox vaccine. She presumed it was because most of the older siblings had already had chicken pox and were fine they didn't see the need for them to have it? And because it's all in one they refused it. Not saying I'm against it but perhaps it could be offered separately so that people still take up the MMR? As measles is on the rise and can be nasty! I know this is probably just anecdotal so obviously just my experience.

I’m in my 60s and had my first MMR jab a fortnight ago at my local GP practice. I mentioned being vegetarian and the nurse said they had both sorts, with and without gelatine, and which would I prefer?

When I asked she also said it’s the same dose for me as for 12 and 18 month olds.

This lead me to conclude that they keep the vaccines in stock rather than needing to order them in when people make an appointment. So if parents don’t want the one with chicken pox in it wouldn’t be difficult - if they know it’s a possibility and the NHS offers that.

Why did I have the jab? Why not? I’ve had German measles but not Mumps or Measles and I don’t want them. NHS link with another link to the MMRV one.

AnxiousUniParent · 14/02/2026 23:42

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:44

@AnxiousUniParent do you think the low mortality could be linked to the fact that until recently we had excellent rates of measles vaccination in the U.K., and most areas still have that now?

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8556/CBP-8556.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj2iMT-htqSAxX5S_EDHY-IKkAQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0ZTV0FwNc5M_GjiKwF5gNM.

The MMR graph in this document shows that we are slightly below the vaccination coverage of the late 1990's after which there was a significant drop, then a rise and recently a slight drop taking us back to slightly below the 1998 level. Based on the data points in this documents, the overall coverage for this entire period is significantly less than the current coverage.

MMR introduced in 1988.. since then, there have been ups and downs in the vaccination rates (we ut the deaths have remained very low, despite these vaccination fluctuations. The data linked above shows adult and child deaths from 2005 (20 years ago) There have been 5 child deaths from measles where there was no severe immunological issue present since 2005 and 4 child deaths where there was an immunological issue.

Pre MMR, 1988, the deaths were in double figures annually, so no, I do not think that coverage since the introduction of the MMR is masking what would otherwise be a higher mortality rate based on current vaccination coverage rates.

https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearchbriefings.files.parliament.uk%2Fdocuments%2FCBP-8556%2FCBP-8556.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0ZTV0FwNc5M_GjiKwF5gNM&ved=2ahUKEwj2iMT-htqSAxX5S_EDHY-IKkAQFnoECCgQAQ

Charlizeangles · 14/02/2026 23:54

MudMyNameIsMud · 14/02/2026 23:39

I’m in my 60s and had my first MMR jab a fortnight ago at my local GP practice. I mentioned being vegetarian and the nurse said they had both sorts, with and without gelatine, and which would I prefer?

When I asked she also said it’s the same dose for me as for 12 and 18 month olds.

This lead me to conclude that they keep the vaccines in stock rather than needing to order them in when people make an appointment. So if parents don’t want the one with chicken pox in it wouldn’t be difficult - if they know it’s a possibility and the NHS offers that.

Why did I have the jab? Why not? I’ve had German measles but not Mumps or Measles and I don’t want them. NHS link with another link to the MMRV one.

Thanks for that they didn't didn't say that at the time but good to know.

HoppingPavlova · 15/02/2026 00:07

I think the problem is that because it became controlled when the vaccine became available, there are a few generations who now don’t understand the danger if it as it’s rare to have a case.

The vaccine didn’t exist when I was a child, so in your neighbourhood you experienced the odd death, and also quite a few kids with permanent disabling effects from it. So, when the vaccine first came out people couldn’t get it quick enough for their kids given personal experiences. But that experience is gone and people now don’t understand their child may well live, but be permanently disabled so they shrug, think no big deal, and don’t vax.

Pryceosh1987 · 15/02/2026 00:34

Something unhealthy is unhealthy, but a positive mindset and a good focus gets us through painful moments.

AnxiousUniParent · 15/02/2026 00:40

BTW.. I am not saying don't vacvjnate. I dislike the fact that this made up story has been published to create fear that is not born out by the statistics and we would be better off focusing on improving the outcomes of children born in deprived areas and children of ethnic minority parents. There is a study which talks about what actions were missed in some of the deaths that werr reviewed and they relate to support for families... I wonder what a story in the Athlantic would look like if it featured one of the 3,492 children who did actually die rather than this characture of an article. Research in the UK shows that ethnic minorities in deprived areas are less likely to be vaccinated not the middle class gluten avoidant working mother... this article has pissed me off.

AnxiousUniParent · 15/02/2026 00:45

@HoppingPavlova when were you born? Since the mid 1950's there have been less than 100 deaths per year in the UK from measles, you must have been very unlucky to have been aware of deaths in your neighbourhood.

AnxiousUniParent · 15/02/2026 00:49

(Typing in the dark.. no predictive text.. I need my glasses! Excuse the ridiculous number of typos)

EBearhug · 15/02/2026 00:53

My mum was very keen on us being vaccinated, because she remembered someone from school dying from measles, and also swimming pools closing because of polio. I think some people think they're not as important now, because they haven't seen how seriously ill people get (because vaccinations mean they're less common...)

I have never been vaccinated for mumps, because it wasn't available as a child, but I had measles jabs - and one of the last smallpox jabs. All of we girls queued up for rubella jabs age 10/11 at school.

ViciousCurrentBun · 15/02/2026 01:23

I was born in the 60’s and was not vaccinated and caught it and developed encephalitis and almost died. I had fits for 3 years and ended up being put down a year at school and having to relearn how to tie my shoe laces and tell the time. I recovered fully but as an adult I had to have a restricted driving licence until my Dr supported me in an appeal as I had been free of fits for 10 years.

I am old enough to remember the huge amount of people who were disabled from having polio as children.

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