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Well I never knew this!

273 replies

Jeanolly · 01/02/2026 22:17

I've just had a lightbulb moment (at least I think I have!).

I never knew until about 2 minutes ago that Jimmy is a diminutive for Jeremy. I thought it was short for James. Or maybe it's for both?

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Sgtmajormummy · 02/02/2026 00:36

I had to read out a name on a list, overthought it and got completely tongue tied:
McGoughan

(Macgowan, maguffan, macgoogan, mucgoogawn, macgoufan, macguggan, macgowgan)

Turns out they used the third version! Grin

WaryHiker · 02/02/2026 00:51

Vixenlover · 01/02/2026 22:49

Jem is diminutive of Jeremy too.

And James. Anne of Green Gables' oldest son was James and always known as Jem.

Februarysiceandsleet · 02/02/2026 00:53

FishFingerSandwichs · 01/02/2026 22:53

Will is for Wilfred

It can be as well, yes.

Wilfreds used to be known as Wilf.

humphrg2 · 02/02/2026 00:53

Im irish and my son is named Liam after my dad who was will and his father who was William and his father before him who was bill.
My other ds is Sétanta and my dd is aoife

CookingFatCat · 02/02/2026 00:56

Whatwouldnanado · 01/02/2026 22:42

Oh no…the piggy! Always thought he went shopping.

Didn’t we all 😬

Quomphy · 02/02/2026 00:58

Davros · 01/02/2026 23:09

Tell that to my uncle Liam from Kilkenny, born in the 1930s, whose full name was William.

I don’t understand what you mean? It was very, very common for Irish people to have the English form of their name on their birth cert but to use the Irish form day to day.

The Irish form of William is Uilliam and Liam is short for that.
https://forvo.com/word/uilliam/
Loads of Irish Williams were known as Liam (also Johns as Seáns etc).

Quomphy · 02/02/2026 01:03

Arlanymor · 01/02/2026 23:08

That's interesting because my Jimmy/Jeremy is also American!

Jem in To Kill A Mockingbird is a Jeremy.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 02/02/2026 01:07

I only found out recently that Oaf can be a short form for Andrew.

Quomphy · 02/02/2026 01:08

Davros · 01/02/2026 23:37

Whatever. His full name was William and he was always called Liam. And he was from Ireland and quite some time ago. I can’t explain it but that’s the facts 🤷‍♀️

It’s very normal. No explanation necessary 😊

MarxistMags · 02/02/2026 01:12

I've just discovered this....we all know about the labels on the back of T-shirts/clothing etc. but I have realised that there is also a label on the left seam of all clothes 😄

Quomphy · 02/02/2026 01:15

Strangerthanfictions · 01/02/2026 23:56

Yeah that's right, Billy or Willy for protestants and Liam for Catholics, my family name is William generations of men with that name and never once were any known as Liam as we were protestant, wullie actually was the most common nickname.

Willie was very common in Catholic communities too.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 02/02/2026 01:29

Frank short for Francis

LucyLoo1972 · 02/02/2026 01:32

Chiefangel · 01/02/2026 22:40

Liam Gallagher as an example, he is actually William Gallagher

well I really never knew that!

Puffalicious · 02/02/2026 01:57

Quomphy · 02/02/2026 01:15

Willie was very common in Catholic communities too.

Still is. I know many Willies, mainly older.

Younger boys are Billy or Liam.

PP mentioned Shuggsie/ Shuggy/Shugg - common here in Scotland for Hugh.

Paddy is the main one for Patrick.

Chick is an older Scottish diminutive of Charles.

Finn is the diminutive of Finlay but also Finnian (DS1's uni flatmate who is English).

In my family we have Liz/ Lizzie/ Betty/ Beth/ Betta - all Elizabeths.

My mam was Helen but called Eleanor by family, & my sister Helen is Nell.

Puffalicious · 02/02/2026 01:59

Sgtmajormummy · 02/02/2026 00:36

I had to read out a name on a list, overthought it and got completely tongue tied:
McGoughan

(Macgowan, maguffan, macgoogan, mucgoogawn, macgoufan, macguggan, macgowgan)

Turns out they used the third version! Grin

I take it you're not Scottish, as it's clearly MucGoogan. The others are just wild/ plain wrong!😅

Monty27 · 02/02/2026 02:10

threescoops · 01/02/2026 22:32

Liam is the Irish version of William, not a diminutive

That's Will or Willie isn't it?

Wingingitbestican · 02/02/2026 02:17

youalright · 01/02/2026 22:23

I'm still in shock when I found out about the little piggy going to market doesn't mean he went shopping 😢

Ditto 😂

Quomphy · 02/02/2026 02:20

Puffalicious · 02/02/2026 01:57

Still is. I know many Willies, mainly older.

Younger boys are Billy or Liam.

PP mentioned Shuggsie/ Shuggy/Shugg - common here in Scotland for Hugh.

Paddy is the main one for Patrick.

Chick is an older Scottish diminutive of Charles.

Finn is the diminutive of Finlay but also Finnian (DS1's uni flatmate who is English).

In my family we have Liz/ Lizzie/ Betty/ Beth/ Betta - all Elizabeths.

My mam was Helen but called Eleanor by family, & my sister Helen is Nell.

Yes, I don’t think Willie is used for boys anymore. It’s dying out.

Finn (or Fionn) is a name in its own right too, its not just a diminutive.

I’m in Ireland and Eibhlís/Eilís (Eye-leesh) is used for Elizabeth too. Eileen (Eibhlín) or Eily (Eye-lee) were very commonly used as forms of Helen, but not anymore really. Eily was also used for Ellen and Nell was well used as a diminutive too.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 02/02/2026 02:21

Wait until someone tells you about Jack.

I knew this when I was 5 as it was my grandad's name.

ImDoneOnceAndForAll2 · 02/02/2026 02:26

youalright · 01/02/2026 22:23

I'm still in shock when I found out about the little piggy going to market doesn't mean he went shopping 😢

Oh god 💡

HelenaWaiting · 02/02/2026 02:26

JustNotFeelingItToday · 01/02/2026 23:54

People keep saying this but Liam is used fairly regularly as a short version of William. I know two Liams, one it's his given name and one is a William shortened to Liam (his Dad is William)

I've now written William so many times it looks weird

Edited

He can call himself what he likes, but Liam is not a dimutive of Liam, no matter how much some people would like it to be. In fact, when my Granda (Liam, after whom my son Liam is named) was a boy, Liams tended to be referred to as Billy.

SandyY2K · 02/02/2026 02:29

ultracynic · 01/02/2026 22:39

Peggy is a diminutive of Margaret, and so is Daisy (makes a bit more sense as the oxeye daisy is aka Marguerite)

I've never heard Daisy, as the shortening for Margaret. I've heard Pegg, Margie, Margo and @Maggie.

Daisy is a standalone name as far a I know, but I just saw this:

Common short forms for Margaret include Meg, Maggie, Marge, Margo, Peggy, and Margie, but surprisingly, names like Daisy, Molly, and Greta are also diminutives, stemming from historical rhyming trends and the French connection between Marguerite and the daisy flower.

SandyY2K · 02/02/2026 02:30

HelenaWaiting · 02/02/2026 02:26

He can call himself what he likes, but Liam is not a dimutive of Liam, no matter how much some people would like it to be. In fact, when my Granda (Liam, after whom my son Liam is named) was a boy, Liams tended to be referred to as Billy.

Common short names (nicknames) for William include Will, Bill, Billy, Liam, and Willy, with Bill often arising from a rhyming tradition (William > Will > Bill) and Liam being a popular short form of Irish origin.

Other variations include Wills, Billie, and creative options like Whit, Wally, or Willem.

Hollyhobbi · 02/02/2026 02:40

BrandyandGinger · 01/02/2026 22:51

Liam Gallagher is of Irish descent so it's probably the Irish version of his name they use.
In Ireland the older generations of James' are called either Jimmy or Seamus, which is the Irish version.
The older Jerrys are usually Gerard, but they can also be Jeremiahs. There aren't really any Gerald's.

Nope they are Gerry’s! Or Ger, like one of my uncles. My uncle is Jim or Seamus when he’s home from England. His given name is James.

TotHappy · 02/02/2026 02:42

Arlanymor · 02/02/2026 00:13

Why were you affronted?

Yes, why? I don't know, except that I had the name pegged in my mind as a diminutive of James and so I was shook when I heard it for another name!
I like things 'proper'

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