Anyone here paid to go and see a dietician ? Did it help what did they tell you ? I’m thinking of trying mounjaro

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And I think perhaps I should try harder with my diet
I did try for a couple of weeks after Xmas
made no weight loss

inhave a good stone to lose maybe bit more

then had a couple of very stressful weeks and fell off the wagon

so now I’m ready to restart

I’ve lost weigh before with slimming world and gym
but slimming world polluted my mind with all sorts of disordered thinking around food

and I want to ideally
think about eatting for nutrition rather than cardboard and whatever just because it’s low calories or syns or whatever

a typical day I might have no breakfast
not hungry

i dont tend to eat till lunchtime
then its maybe sarnie, Crisps drink and maybe say a club biscuit or choc mouse

dinners tend to be family type meals
sausage and mash n beans
burgers n chips pea
roasts
omlettes
beef stew
shepards pie

I don’t tend to snack between meals
I tend to drink one or two cans of sugary drink(which I know is an easy fix)
don’t drink enough water or squash

don’t drink alcohol tea or coffee
no drugs no medication
no smoking
active

5ft 4 11.8 stone

I get what you’re saying re no tea coffee or alcohol but it’s not really a question of healthy vs unhealthy food when it comes to fat loss. Obviously it’s better to be eating whole foods and hitting all your macros for the day but it really is as simple as calories in versus calories out. Your body needs to be expending more energy than it’s taking in in order to lose weight.

As for why you won’t lose weight on 1500kcals a day for a fortnight, that’s not long enough to really see any significant change. It can take weeks into a fat loss phase to see any real changes. A pound of fat is 3500 calories. So you need to cut out 3500 calories a week to lose 1 pound per week. That equates to 500 calories a day. So 500 less than whatever your maintenance calories are.

Even if you eat 1500 for two weeks, if you go back into maintenance or surplus calories after those two weeks then you won’t see the results because you haven’t given it long enough. Your body holds on to water for the first while of a fat loss phase as well even if you’re in a calorie deficit which is why it can take weeks for the scale to move. You just have to be consistent with it. If you want to lose a stone in a sustainable way whilst still enjoying the foods you like built in to your calories then it will take months, not weeks. But doing it this way you may learn better ways of keeping the weight off afterwards as opposed to going on WLI and coming off them.

If you really aren’t eating much in terms of volume then I would look at things like your cooking oil, nuts, peanut butter etc. Those things add a lot of calories to your day without making you full, and you wouldn’t think it by looking at it because it’s “only” a splash of olive oil or “only” a tablespoon of peanut butter but those things can be putting you into a calorie surplus. I’m not suggesting that you cut them out but I’d recommend you have a go at tracking your intake even just for a week to see.

I lost 3 stone on Mounjaro, but one of my big things was resetting “normal” eating. Instead of lunch being sandwich + crisps + hummus + biscuits/choc, it is now just a sandwich and maybe a piece of fruit. Every sandwich should have at least some vegetable in it, lettuce, cucumber, tomato etc. I have lost weight before by cutting carbs, but my habitual eating involves carbs so I had to learn to eat them but sensibly. Preferably your bread would be wholemeal/seeded etc, but DH and the kids love white bread so I get over-ruled a lot and have still lost weight despite the white bread.

I also only eat two meals a day and aim for no snacks. I’m maintaining now but when losing weight I was very strict about no snacks.

The only dietician I know is on weight loss drugs! I don’t think it was lack on knowledge that led to the fat piling on.

I’d download nutra check because it’s super user friendly, work out your TDEE and change your calories to that because NC will give you basically zero. Ask chat GPT to make you a meal plan based on your calorie intake. Weighing is essential to everything in Cc xx

They have to follow the widely-accepted evidence base. Anything ‘groundbreaking’ would be widely known by the time it was approved to be shared with service users. Especially working for the NHS they cannot just go rogue and start recommending whatever they’ve read in a new book or that’s just been published in a single study in Cambodia.

@opYour TDEE for your height and weight with little to no exercise is 1650. That’s the calories you can eat without gaining or losing any weight.

So when eating only 1500 calories that’s only a deficit of 150 calories. It takes a 3,500 calorie deficit to lose 1lb. So it would take almost 23 days for you to lose 1lb on a calorie intake of 1500 calories… that’s why you didn’t lose weight doing it for 2 weeks.

See that doesn't sound yummy to me, is a fistful a handful

I perhaps could do with a full month's meal plan
As I do like alot of things

The actual foods aren't important as such, it's more the types of foods and the food groups they belong to. As I said, prioritise veg, then add healthy protein like chicken, fish etc, have some healthy fats ie avocado, nuts, seeds etc and reduce your starchy carbs. Replace white bread, pasta, rice for wholegrains but don't have too much.

In May 2024 i decided to start Mounjaro but wanted to do it properly so went with a company who offered dietician and exercise coaching support. I spoke with a lovely lady on a weekly basis for a few weeks, she looked at what I ate and, although I thought I knew about nutrition from all my years of dieting, she explained how my diet was, technically, healthy but really not right for an overweight woman of my age - I didn't have enough protein, ate too much soft food, too much processed stuff, among other things, and gave me some really useful guidance and suggestions.
I have since moved on from that supplier but still follow her advice. I have changed a lot of what I eat since then, built better habits, used Mounjaro sensibly and lost over 6 stone

A fistful is a portion roughly the size of your clenched fist.

A protein portion (meat) will be roughly the size of the palm of your hand.

Your daily cheese portion will be about the size of your two thumbs or less.

i dont tend to eat till lunchtime
then its maybe sarnie, Crisps drink and maybe say a club biscuit or choc mouse

I don't think you need an appointment with a dietician to realise this is not a good idea! Cut out the crisps, drink, club biscuit and/or choc mousse.

Protein every meal
lots of veg, water, berries for sweetness
calorie count
Ditch the crisps, snack bars, fizzy pop
Aim for unprocessed foods

Omg that's so depressing!

Thats amazing

Change the mousse to Greek yogurt with berries
change the fizzy pop to fizzy water
change the sandwich to a leg of chicken with salad
change the club biscuit to a couple of rich tea biscuits

I've clearly and openly said it's not good and it's habit and lots of people have given ne the beenfitmfomtheir experience and wisdom, whichnis kind of them.

Tbh you've not really added anything useful have you, so have a good evening

What is depressing is that an adult does not know about nutrition, and was hoping that money or medication would fix a poor diet.

I'm not saying it as a personal criticism but as a general observation.
Dieting is hard but lifestyle changes aren't if you can switch the mindset.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to be so snippy with my comment. It's an easy fix. You could lose weight just by changing that one habit.

If you already know your diet's not good, how do you imagine a dietician is going to help any further?

You're the one being snippy, and contributing nothing

@velvetgeranium , OP isn't being snippy and is aware that she needs to learn about nutrition.

She's snapped back at me twice now. I would call that being snippy.

Learn about nutrition! Cut out all the crap and the UPF snacks, and eat some basic real food, and plenty of fruit and vegetables. It's hardly rocket science.

Eating that amount of crap 'for lunch' is an obvious and super easy place to start if OP wants to lose weight - not sure why making that comment was met with such hostility. But, YMMV.

It is.

Mine's even less!

Which is why I referred up thread to the magical thinking about just 'eating healthy' and in particular using 'fistful' as a guide to what your intake is, is hugely inaccurate, because not only is that inaccurate to start with but I can guarantee that over time that fistful becomes bigger and bigger

You have to weight and measure everything if you're going to get within a deficit that works enough for you to see it. You cant use guesswork at your level.

You could lost 1lb a month but it wont motivate you and you'll give up easily.

I saw a nutritionist as I was having some inflammatory issues and my eczema had gone bonkers. She gave excellent advice and loads of info and ideas and recipes. Cut out all processed food including chocolate, and had very little sugar. Skin was fixed and the weight just fell off me.

That poster is on another thread giving it the biggun about how fat people are basically self inflicted souls, no understanding about weight loss and the work that needs to be done, take no notice.

Or just go cold turkey and break your sugar addiction?