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Lalgarh · 22/01/2026 01:14

Farage has turned up at Davos and has been assiduously arslikhan to try and get back in with Donnie, saying the world would indeed be safer if Greenland was American

Comments on pro Trump sky Australia are pointing out that yesterday he was saying it was wrong.

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JoshLymanSwagger · 22/01/2026 04:13

I'm not sure exactly where Mark Rutte gets his authority from to tell the people of Greenland and Denmark what to do.

Mark, if you want to genuflect to 🍊🌮 then do it on your own dime.

RedTagAlan · 22/01/2026 04:57

JoshLymanSwagger · 22/01/2026 04:13

I'm not sure exactly where Mark Rutte gets his authority from to tell the people of Greenland and Denmark what to do.

Mark, if you want to genuflect to 🍊🌮 then do it on your own dime.

That's what I thought too. Especially the bit about no Russian or Chinese investment at all. Rutte needs to publish what he agreed on behalf of Greenland, Denmark, Europe and the world. Otherwise Trump will claim whatever he wants.

Who knows what this "golden dome" is.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 22/01/2026 06:39

The sad thing is that this might just work.

Blackmail, Bluster and Batshit Bonkers - Trump Thread #153
YankTank · 22/01/2026 06:54

BIossomtoes · 21/01/2026 23:13

Same way Biden was. For the love of God, US, make someone under 60 your next president. Ideally not Vance.

Yes. When Trump was sworn in the second time, he broke the record of being the oldest man in history to do so.

And somehow people are surprised that he’s out-Bidening Biden.

shuddacuddadidnt · 22/01/2026 08:32

Whatever you do, don't explore this writer's uber pro Trump's social media posts, unless you want to be raging, but as a military analyst, her article is worth a read in understanding more of the reasoning behind the US push to own Greenland.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9ecbf6199f77624f

Trump is right. America cannot afford to leave Greenland to Denmark

Advances in hypersonic missile technology have left a glaring gap in the West’s defences, and nobody but the US can fill it

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9ecbf6199f77624f

LlttledrummergirI · 22/01/2026 08:32

My issue with us not being told, is that Trump is nt trustworthy. In the example @walllaw gave, the toddler would get to the front gate, then run into the road, cause a car crash and leg it back to the zoo while you were distracted by people dying so that he could let the lions out.

Whatever he has been promised for now won't be enough and he'll be back to causing chaos again ASAP. He's a vampire, just drains the energy until he gets his way and I am utterly sick of him.

DuncinToffee · 22/01/2026 08:56

walllaw · 22/01/2026 00:01

In what world are we detaining 5 year olds?

https://bsky.app/profile/joealv.bsky.social/post/3mcxqw2ajec2a

I do not know how these people can live with themselves. I really don't. I can't figure out which is worse - trying ourselves in knots trying to understand that, or stopping trying to understand that.

James O'Brien posted

‘Terrible things are happening outside… Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return… to find their families gone.’
Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/21/ice-arrests-five-year-old-boy-minnesota

walllaw · 22/01/2026 09:01

DuncinToffee · 22/01/2026 08:56

James O'Brien posted

‘Terrible things are happening outside… Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return… to find their families gone.’
Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/21/ice-arrests-five-year-old-boy-minnesota

I was actually just coming on to ask if anyone else feels like they're torn between needing to step away from the news for their own mental health and checking it obsessively?

I'm working on a project where I had quite a bit of time yesterday where I was waiting for other people to get me the bits and pieces I need to start putting it all together and spent way too much time on the news. I was so horrified and upset by this story that I had a terrible night's sleep.

DuncinToffee · 22/01/2026 09:13

walllaw · 22/01/2026 09:01

I was actually just coming on to ask if anyone else feels like they're torn between needing to step away from the news for their own mental health and checking it obsessively?

I'm working on a project where I had quite a bit of time yesterday where I was waiting for other people to get me the bits and pieces I need to start putting it all together and spent way too much time on the news. I was so horrified and upset by this story that I had a terrible night's sleep.

Difficult isn't it when a story effects you like that. Flowers

walllaw · 22/01/2026 09:25

DuncinToffee · 22/01/2026 09:13

Difficult isn't it when a story effects you like that. Flowers

I feel like having my mind go back and forth between, he's just destroyed every political and economic alliance that has kept the world safe for the last 75 years and, they're kidnapping 5 year olds and lying and gaslighting about all of it, is too much.

How do we ever get out of this?

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 09:38

@wallaw I feel similarly terrible and terrified this morning and also hardly slept. Luckily I'm old so I don't have to work or be anywhere, but still.
I haven't read about the 5 year-old properly, the headlines are enough, I cannot let myself get paralysed with distress.
But this morning I'm between worrying wtf they think they have agreed on Greenland, reading that Trump is meeting with Zelenskyy, and Witkoff with Putin today - and Witkoff is being horribly blasé and saying that war is as good as solved- and thirdly that the vile Farage is saying that Mark Carney got everything wrong, and saying it in his usual oily, patronising, supercilious way.

I don't know how to switch off at all at the moment. The world seems poised either on the brink of disaster or, possibly, positive change. But definitely poised on a knife edge.
FlowersBrewCake💗 For all of us.

BIossomtoes · 22/01/2026 09:43

We wait. It appears that his popularity in the US is beginning to wane. He’s a once in a lifetime phenomenon, none of his supporters has the charisma to capture the support Trump has and he’ll be gone soon. This too shall pass.

RedTagAlan · 22/01/2026 09:49

shuddacuddadidnt · 22/01/2026 08:32

Whatever you do, don't explore this writer's uber pro Trump's social media posts, unless you want to be raging, but as a military analyst, her article is worth a read in understanding more of the reasoning behind the US push to own Greenland.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9ecbf6199f77624f

Thanks for the link. Interesting, but nonsense. The author needs to buy a globe.

I am a bit rusty with this, but hypersonics are mostly hype. Because physics.

The author suggests a missile called Kenzhal is a risk. Nope. The article states it's range as 2000km. Not enough for a polar route. Far East Russia to Alaska yes, but not polar. The other one named is Oreshnik, claimed range of 5500km. That's the distance from London to NY. Using DD's school globe and a piece of string, that could reach the US from the Russian far east, over Alaska. Nowhere near Greenland. If fired from the west of Russia, the Baltic sea area, then it goes over Greenland, but would land in the middle of Canada. Nowhere does my 5500km long bit of string get anywhere near the US by going over Greenland. If fired from China, a missile with that range would plop in the sea, or Russia. It would not even reach Greenland, never mind the other 5000km from the top of Greenland to the USA/ Canada border area.

That would need at least 8000 km range. And that incidentally is where the range of ICBM nukes start. That is why they start at that sort of range, because that's the minimum needed.

Then there is payload, and physics. Hypersonics can't carry much weight. So the damage they do against land targets, especially hardened ones, is minimal. We see this in Ukraine. We also see from that war, that what Russia claim are hypersonics are actually not. They are ballistic missiles with less payload.

Hypersonics are really a danger against ships. Short to medium range, where a small payload could do enough damage to disable it. Think South China sea and Taiwan area. They can't do intercontinental range because they fly against air resistance. They can't carry enough fuel. And that is why ICBMs exist.

ICBM's dont have air resistance for most of their flight of course, and they also go really fast. About Mach 17. Their speed comes from gravity and freefall. They can go over Greenland and reach the US, and that is exactly what Thule is watching for.

I reckon this military analyst author is rather full of hype.

The author also managed to miss out the real risk. Submarines.

:-)

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 09:52

@BIossomtoes I agree this too shall pass. But the underlying issues are not solved by the passing of Trump.
The human race as a whole has created the most terrible mess and all over the world people are fighting just for basic decency - from Iran's oppressive regime to the death of kids in Switzerland because of lax fire regulations and no one bothering to implement them anyway. It's everything everywhere all at once and I...

I need a break. This too shall pass doesn't cut it for me.
Thank you though. Appreciate all decent perspectives. 💐

persephonia · 22/01/2026 09:52

BIossomtoes · 22/01/2026 09:43

We wait. It appears that his popularity in the US is beginning to wane. He’s a once in a lifetime phenomenon, none of his supporters has the charisma to capture the support Trump has and he’ll be gone soon. This too shall pass.

I don't think things will just go back to normal afterwards though. I know there are many Americans who don't like him, and many Americans who might have voted for him because of legitimate grievances by who don't agree with everything he is doing. But the fact remains he was democratically elected twice. The policies he stands for domestic and international obviously do resonate with a significant number of Americans. And there are people like Stephen Miller, Vance, Musk etc who are very ideological and have their own view of how the world should go and have had lots of opportunity to set Americas course. Theres a certain latency in the system. Even during his first term Trump appointed supreme court.judges who then went on to impact abortion rights once Trump was out of office.

Plus,.certain things that were unthinkable have not only been thought but happened. So they can be thought again. It's like after a mountain is climbed for the first time, you will always see many more people climbing it after. Because it's been shown to be possible. Like Sulla in the Roman Republic.

That doesn't mean we are all doomed and America is doomed and democracy is doomed. It could even be an opportunity to make things better. But it won't be 2024 again.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:03

Davos - he's about to sign the motley crew up to the ludicrous 'Board of Peace'. On stage of course, for more attention.
It's all for attention, all of it. That's why it's so random and inconsistent.
Fuck's sake bring on the straightjacket!

RedTagAlan · 22/01/2026 10:06

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:03

Davos - he's about to sign the motley crew up to the ludicrous 'Board of Peace'. On stage of course, for more attention.
It's all for attention, all of it. That's why it's so random and inconsistent.
Fuck's sake bring on the straightjacket!

I knocked up a design for one on PowerPoint last week :-)

Blackmail, Bluster and Batshit Bonkers - Trump Thread #153
DuncinToffee · 22/01/2026 10:12

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:03

Davos - he's about to sign the motley crew up to the ludicrous 'Board of Peace'. On stage of course, for more attention.
It's all for attention, all of it. That's why it's so random and inconsistent.
Fuck's sake bring on the straightjacket!

That's still only him with Putin, Netanyahu and Lukanshenko?

The UK has said NO

RedTagAlan · 22/01/2026 10:13

Board of Peace.

Let me guess what the first item on the agenda will be. A peace prize. Bigglier and betterer than the Nobble.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:13

DuncinToffee · 22/01/2026 10:12

That's still only him with Putin, Netanyahu and Lukanshenko?

The UK has said NO

No, he's on stage again now with a whole bunch. Now!

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:14

Sky now. Another speech! I can't even...

RedTagAlan · 22/01/2026 10:16

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:13

No, he's on stage again now with a whole bunch. Now!

Yeah. On about the deaths in Ukraine.

Well, there is an easy solution to that. Russia should feck off out of there.

He is having problems with the names.

Argghhhh... Blair. Where did he get a billion dollah from ?

PickAChew · 22/01/2026 10:17

What fucking place does this spectacle have at the world ECONOMIC forum? 😖

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 22/01/2026 10:18

On stage with him according to the Guardian -

  • A representative of Bahrain,
  • A representative of Morocco,
  • The president of Argentina
  • Prime minister of Armenia
  • President of Azerbaijan
  • Prime minister of Bulgaria
  • Prime minsiter of Hungary
  • President of Indonesia
  • Deputy prime minister of Jordon
  • president of Kosovo
  • prime minister of Pakistan
  • President of Paraguay
  • prime minister of Qatar
  • foreign affair minister from Saudi Arabia
  • foreign affairs minister of Turkey
  • A representative from the UAE
  • The president of Uzbekistan
  • Prime minister of Mongolia
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