Which countries is Russia a threat to?

[Wobblylegs1]

National Service is back on the agenda in Germany and France and on R4 Any Questions this weekend it seemed to be taken for granted that there is a ‘growing threat from Russia’.

Obviously, there is a threat to the old soviet bloc be because Putin sees them as ‘Russian’. Surely he wouldn’t be interested in expanding into Western Europe though? Russia already owns a huge sprawling chunk of land and struggles to sustain its population. Putin is bonkers, but I haven’t seen any suggestion that he has 1930s-style ‘conquer the whole world’ delusions? I don’t really understand what sort of a threat he poses and to what end? Anyone care to share their thoughts?

Hmmmmmm OK.

Trump won’t be in power for that much longer and as I’ve said, they wouldn’t get involved for the sake of it, but Europe are their main ally so it would have consequences for them by not helping. It doesn’t have to be boots on the ground, it could be intelligence sharing etc etc…. In the same way the EU are helping Ukraine.

I don’t think Russia are in a particular great situation to start attacking other countries when it can’t even gain a stronghold in Ukraine right now.

Trump and Putin both look like they've seen better days. I'm more worried about who comes next when they start keeling over or, more likely, die whilst having sex on Viagra.

I don’t think the US needs any country really that’s why they threaten to leave NATO we need them more of course, but it’s all just pie in the sky really. China needs Europe to continue purchasing goods from there and whilst they may support Putin in general terms, it’s doubtful they’ll be willing to ruin their own economy for nothing.

Russia approves the new US national security strategy.

Today’s Russian papers are loving the new US national security strategy. One Russian paper on the implications for Europe: “Trump isn’t their Daddy any more.” Kremlin spokesman comments: “The adjustments in the updated strategy correspond in many ways to our vision”

He's 73 isn't he? Putin.

Here's hoping he pops his clogs soon !

He’ll be replaced by Putin 2.0. The regime will survive.

Majority of Russians are brainwashed to the point on no return and anyone who doesn’t agree is prosecuted, killed or have to leave Russia, if lucky.

They care about demographic change though which is what happened to Russia post 1930s famines and WWII losses. The repercussions of WWII are still being felt decades later with huge cyclical troughs in the birth rate as each small generation subsequently comes of age. This was further entrenched by millions of deaths in the 1990s caused by financial crises and food shortages and again the demographic shortages will continue to cyclically repeat. Russia has a large population but they've lost sufficient numbers that it is an issue now, hence press ganging fighters from elsewhere. They know that they can't carry on indefinitely having their young men killed in large numbers.

I am no military expert but surely needing boots on the ground speaks to how outdated their military is?

why would any sophisticated nation need conscription when modern war would be fought from the air, controlled from miles away? Boots on the ground where needed would be professional and highly trained military. Not the gaggle of prisoners, abused minority groups and alcoholics bumbling around Ukraine looking for women to rape.

The Russians seem to love a strong leader. Don't spare the knout Ivan!!
Putin wants to show Russia as a strong country (and enrich himself). Also it's in the job description to convert the world to Socialism.

I think its not so much about traditional invasions but destabilising governments and institutions, using propaganda to encourage pro Russian movements, trying to get Russian speakers to flood regions then start separatist movements demanding that countries cede regions to Russia because the people who live there want to be part of Russia etc. Putin cant do everything but he can get loads of puppet governments like Belarus who do his bidding. Trump is in thrall to Putin and clearly wants to be his friend, so he will be no help.

You think that of the Russian military?

They are slowly pushing back Ukraine and troops are needed to hold ground, they have v sophisticated electronic warfare and have almost unlimited raw materials to manufacturer munitions.

Once the yanks stop supply air defence and other munitions via European/NATO countries, to Ukraine, which will happen soon, Russia will take over the whole place.
& thanks to a complete lack of foresight by the UK and others, we wont be able to do a thing about it.

The American administration now see Europe as the enemy and Russia as their ally.

A post about Russian bots got deleted?

Thats unbelievably naïve.

Vance etc are even more pro Russian than Trump, the Republicans will win again in 2028, the Democrats have no one to counter.

Ukraine is, just, surviving because of US air defence systems, take that away and the Russian air force and their drones and missiles will take over Ukraine.

As i said, even on present supply lines, Ukraine has enough munitions for another few months and 100s of 1000s of Ukrainian men have left or tried to leave Ukraine, they don't want to die on the front line.

India and China are trading fully with Russia, inc supplying them with technology, meanwhile we seek and have got trade deals to help them both along..... talk about digging our own grave.

This, basically!

Not yet, but Putin might well view the Baltic states as low-hanging fruit at some point.

Lol You think Putin a Socialist??

Fucking hell.

I didn’t see it but posters use bot a lot on here and it gets deleted for good reason.

The post didn't call out anyone, just a warning.

The Trump 'peace plan' for Ukraine was called out for using Russian language

I saw it - not accusatory at all but humorous/non serious

So no 'good reason' other than it triggered the automatic filter

Oh come on, Russians aren't brainwashed and nor are they stupid. Most Russians have a clear eyed view of their politicians ime, don't expect them to be honest and certainly don't believe everything they see/hear. Putin worked for them because he kept more of them alive than Gorbachev and Yeltsin managed and brought an end to the disastrous so called "democracy" (which was nothing of the sort, as we would recognise it) that wrecked their economy.

He's treading a fine line now though, with demographic alarm bells sounding again.

That’s not automatic filter. It’s mnhq deciding to delete.

'They can't even beat Ukraine one on one'

Except it's not one of one is it? With all the help Ukraine is getting, billions and billions in money, the ammunition, and some of the world's best intelligence services, it's really Russia against half of the world.

You know it's true. "One on one", don't kid yourself.

@SaverMaeva

As they should. The tedious self-appointed bot police routinely ruin discussion on this subject by accusing everyone who even slightly diverges from the prevailing narrative built up by long standing prolific posters on multiple Ukraine threads.

Sense of humour by-pass by someone then