I don't want to pay more fucking tax!

[marthainthemarket]

I am the sole earner in a family of four, earning just under 40k a year and getting probably fuck all or below inflation pay increase next year, if I am lucky enough to keep my job ( public sector and employer needing to make massive budget savings). I barely cope now.

I am so fucking angry that Labour fucked up the disability benefit cuts. Other countries don't have run away disability benefits crises because they have a proper assessment process that means they keep a lid on people getting disability benefits who don't really need them. But instead of dealing with that, they came up with a crap proposed cut that wouldn't have dealt with the actual issues and they couldn't defend.

And having fucked that up they are now raising everyone's tax. I hate them!

So you've changed your mind as to who is to blame? I am sorry, but hospitals do shut and move over time, it's not a Labour only thing even if they were to blame.

No I haven’t but he wasn’t on the side of his constituents

Oh FFS do you still actually believe this shit?

I get pip and I work. If the pip changes went ahead I'd have probably have lost my ability to work and pay in to a system . My pip helps to pay for incointenance supplies , 2 counselling sessions a month to deal with everything, heat pads and any other disability bits I need and then my car loan is paid between my pip and wages .
I also work 2 jobs and pay 2 lots of tax and NI but it's only possible bc of pip that I still have a job . I also have constant kidney infections and a bladder pacemaker ontop of pain conditions and it's a lot.

Quite, well said. I think the Greens said same too? Unfortunately will not happen for a long time, due to the electorate believing the lies by Farage et al.

All tax increases should specifically be targeted at people who are in the higher tax brackets, and not basic rate tax payers.

The wealthy will have to learn how to live without having more than one holiday a year, and without those silly car finance deals.

So you said that Labour closed the hospital, then possibly agreed that it's down to the trust, then now you're blaming your local Labour MP instead of the party? You sure you're not being unreasonable here because not keen on Labour?

I agree, no hospitals at the moment should be closed but it really is down to the trusts afaik.

Labour started well by being the first government (probably ever) to try and take a benefit away from well-off pensioners. Then they crapped themselves when their support dropped and back tracked.
Then they decided to tackle the disability benefits madness that has gripped the country and their own party revolted and sided with the Tories (who incidentally also said they wanted to tackle that problem, but couldn't bring themselves to vote with the govt) - So they back tracked.
Like all Lab govts they've capitulated to everyone who is striking.
Due to demographic shifts of an ageing population, there is going to need to be higher taxes (or reduced spending) every year, there are no sunlit uplands, no matter which party gets in.
We've had the good times, it honestly doesn't get better from here on in.

You are so right. TBH the comments on this thread have restored my faith in this site after the knee-jerk racism since the weekend.... but then, perhaps the Reform faithful haven't discovered it yet.

I too am the main breadwinner for a family of 5, and earn less than £40k. I suspect in reality most of us won't be taxed much more than we are now but if we are asked to contribute an extra 1%, isn't it worth it to sort out the mess of the past 15 years, and give our kids a better UK to live in?

Personally I'll worry about the budget once it actually comes, and not rise to scaremongering from the right-wing press and X-itters in the meantime.

Yes, and the huge corporations that pay less tax than they should too, the multi-million companies.
People say that folk leave if tax goes up, well, not entirely true. (we lost more millionaires after brexit!). A lot of these rich people have ties here, family etc, and those who do want to leave and not give back to the country that made them billions should go anyway. Not welcome.

I waited 18 months to see a specialist on a 13 week waiting list...

We def wouldn't get the CAP rebate that the Thatch negotiated. There is also the question as to whether they'd let us in, or make us queue behind Turkey and Ukraine !!

The latest estimate for the damage caused by Brexit to the UK economy is £110bn a year. Perhaps spelling it out will make people sit up and take notice.

One hundred and ten thousand million pounds a year - or almost £4,000 per UK household. No wonder people are feeling poorer.

Then there is the a loss of forty thousand million pounds a year in tax revenue - money that was needed to keep vital public services functioning and also to invest in updating and improving these services. For example, in the NHS not only do the existing staff need to be paid, but the next generation of staff need to be trained, and existing equipment and buildings have to be maintained, repaired and if necessary replaced. The same applies to schools and education, infrastructure, courts and prisons and much more.

Are Labour doing great? In the eyes of many, probably not, but look at what they inherited from the Conservatives' austerity programme and as a result of Brexit.

Are Reform the answer? FFS - these are the same people who claimed that leaving the EU would result in a "Brexit Dividend" of £10bn a year; instead it has cost the country over ten times that sum. When Farage promises to save every household £165 a year on their energy bills, remember that the Brexit that he so loudly promoted has already cost every household £4,000 a year. Not that Farage cares, as he rakes in millions for shilling gold bullion, spouting nonsense on various media platforms and frequently picking up his pay packets for speeches in America from his right-wing backers while supposedly being the MP for Clacton.

I can beat you, waited 2 years for ENT, got nowhere (fobbed off) now going private for second opinion. GP asked for second opinion back at ENT, but I know I've an awful long wait ahead of me...
And gynae has been 2 years. Finally heard from them. Next door got an emergency apt for her heart failure last week - the appointment is next Feb. That's an emergency apt. I don't think people realise how bad it is until the really need it.

Maybe if the likes of Google, Meta, Apple, Starbucks actually paid corporation tax in this country instead of funnelling it all to Ireland by paying a totally made up Intellectual Property charge which reduces their profit in the UK (and other European countries) to zero.
Ireland has nearly paid off it's national debt in the last few years and is discussing setting up a sovereign wealth fund as they've got so much cash.
Disgusting behaviour from the multinationals and Ireland.

You definitely win! Never been so pleased to come second😂

Taking money off those who need it is not a Labour thing.
Sure, WFA isn't needed for all, so they've now given it back to the people that need it.
Gordon Brown brought that in because he had pressure from the EU over how low the UK pensions are. So he did WFA as cheaper than raising pensions more in line with Europe. To take it away, esp from people on basic state pension only and when fuel prices have rocketed is a very very bad move.

We could have had a sovereign wealth fund but the conservatives frittered it all away.

Scotland will still be paying more in tax even after whatever Rachel Reeves does.

The SNP level of financial ineptness is horrific. Many on here complaining about labour, honestly a breath of fresh air compared to up here.

But they have a very good PR dept mostly so many think they are amazing.

There are also some benefits to being a higher rate tax payer especially in regard to putting into pensions and the relief there or getting a cycle to work bike!

Lol, mad innit? What a state it all is! My local hospital is in special measures/needs improvement... no poop Sherlock! :-)

But this is where so many people are stuck, I earn 55k a year which tips me into the 40% tax bracket on anything I earn over 50k. I’m a single parent supporting 3 people off one salary and I can assure you, after bills, commuting costs for myself and them, food etc I am certainly not “wealthy” and despite being promoted, feel worse off than I did years ago. Feel like I pay loads of tax, NI, pension and student loan contributions before I even see my salary, oh and a HMRC tax underpayment from years ago! I pay into a pension but aside from that have no savings and live month to month.

As a member of the conservatives party. Labour didn't waste money. Debt to GBP was stable until the (global) financial crisis.

Austerity hurt the economy a lot and isn't good to do when the economy is already suffering.

Are you joking, who’s paying less and less tax. The UK’s tax burden is currently at the highest levels since the 1940’s.

I’m fed up of ignorant people, who don’t understand anything.

Ours had lost lots of funding and services to other areas. It's really hit and miss depending on what specialism you need.

To have a SWF you need to need to have a government budget surplus. You'd have to go back a long time to find one of those and it didn't hang around for long. There is no political benefit to running a surplus, economic yes, but political no. So that's why no-one seems to bother trying.