I don't want to pay more fucking tax!

[marthainthemarket]

I am the sole earner in a family of four, earning just under 40k a year and getting probably fuck all or below inflation pay increase next year, if I am lucky enough to keep my job ( public sector and employer needing to make massive budget savings). I barely cope now.

I am so fucking angry that Labour fucked up the disability benefit cuts. Other countries don't have run away disability benefits crises because they have a proper assessment process that means they keep a lid on people getting disability benefits who don't really need them. But instead of dealing with that, they came up with a crap proposed cut that wouldn't have dealt with the actual issues and they couldn't defend.

And having fucked that up they are now raising everyone's tax. I hate them!

Well a single practitioner diagnosis of ASD based on a single appointment rather than a multi disciplinary assesment ADOS etc.
An ADHD diagnosis based on a remote asseement from a CBT 'practitioner', signed off by a supervising psychologist who has never seen the patient.

I would not consider either of those to be robust diagnostic processes? Would you?

This 100%

I have never seen such corruption, theft, gaslighting and ineptitude as under the Tories, no, I didn't know what was getting, never imagined that a government could be so bad.

Yes entirely predictable

But that would go against what was a majority vote. You can’t invite people to vote for leaving the EU, Brexit wins and we leave, then a few years later just decide, without a further vote at least, to just rejoin.

I don't make that assumption about all part time workers thanks. 🙄

I've been actively told by people who got the job that the only reason they went for it was so they could claim benefits.
I did part time work myself when my DC were small and didn't get benefits either.
Part time work in of itself is not the issue, but you can't deny there is a reason some people want the magical 3 day week.
Like I said if we advertise a part time role, we are inundated, if it's a full time job then crickets.

And I said it was an observation, not that I was an observer!

To refurbish the High Commission when there are children in this country who do not have access to education. This country is insane

Who said anything about rejoining the EU? Brexit was never defined further than leaving the EU and therefore other than a wholesale rejoining of the EU it seems to me everything else should be on the table.

I don’t want more ‘services’ thanks. Would rather pay the same level of tax I am now. And the government doesn’t just spend on services. They have a tendency to waste a lot of money on things like net zero (probably have mates/ investments that will profit from it), costly mistakes like the Chagos ‘deal’ which is going to put our national security at risk, and asylum hotel contracts which are well into the £billions.

I mean why is ‘grow up’ the response to Labour fiscal ineptitude anyway.

All I know is that I’m always better off under Conservatives and we are not wealthy but have been careful.

we really struggled when dc were small and only slightly over benefit threshold under lovely Mr Blair

A Corbyn government might raise taxes, but if you think services would improve as a result, you’re very naive. His government would take corruption to another level. The money would be spent on pet projects, like old Labour did. And the majority of the country agree. He had his arse handed to him last time he tried to get into number 10, but the idiot is going for round 2….

Yes but you don't get much else on UC especially if you work.

I totally agree . I wouldn’t mind paying a bit more tax to improve services but to pay it subsidise a broken benefits system is ridiculous. No way the Labour Party will survive this.

I'm confused now. Because everyone used to say the Blair years were good except for iraq

This problem dates back to the 1980s when successive governments tried to keep the official unemployment numbers low by putting people on disability instead of unemployment payments.

It has proved impossible to reform the system fairly. By 'impossible' I mean that reformers like Frank Field & Ian Duncan Smith have been hampered by the Treasury (and their own political parties). It is unfair to blame this current government without acknowledging this is a long term problem.

@MaturingCheeseball your comment re: the woman on QT, claiming she has anxiety and being on national TV, in an audience full of strangers, is a bloody good one! I was too busy watching FB trying to keep order, but yes, excellent point.

The NHS is always bad under the cons. So not sure how you can come to that conclusion completely unless never needed it? Under Blair/Brown a lot more worked for the UK people.

I suppose it’s subjective

he put interest rates up the minute he got in meaning we struggled with our mortgage and that made it hard for us plus just slightly over benefit threshold.

Agree with this. There's so much scaremongering going on although my worry is that they actually will implement some of these batshit ideas

Aren't benefits a Labour type thing?

NHS always ok on the whole where I am regardless of government

I think that if everyone was 100% sure that increased taxes would make the NHS better, people wouldn’t mind paying extra, but I can guarantee extra taxes would not make any difference at all. Labour would just squander the extra money on pet projects. Because that’s what they do.

The country has been utterly impoverished by Brexit and 14 years of Tory incompetence and austerity. There's no point moaning about Labour's attempts to fix the problems they inherited.