To be scared about how we will cope with more tax rises - council tax

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i really loathe this government. Usually with politics I feel like whoever is in charge I don’t notice much of a direct impact on my day to day life. Yes I’m aware of slow erosions in public services and I was no fan at all of the tories, I voted for this government im ashamed to say, and they lied and lied about their plans. I am so much worse off and if they double council tax bands virtually all of our disposable income is going to be gone. It feels like theft. I don’t trust them to spend the money I make properly it all feels corrupt and it’s just so depressing and upsetting.

Assume you’re referring then to the last Tory government because what did they do to improve regulations over the 14 years they were in power that you expect Labour to have sorted within a year?

They most certainly are, see my post below.

Two wrongs don't make a right. 14 years of Tory insanity doesn't mean Labour can't go some way to redressing the balance by controlling local authorities and utility companies. Like the good little socialists they are 😂

Labour haven't been Labour since Blair's New Labour. Now they are a travesty.

It will take a Reform government for Liebour supporters to wake up, and they only have themselves to blame.

‘More money in your pocket’ another bit of nonsense.

Come on, change the record 😂

They could easily reinstate the controls and audits on local authorities that have been gradually eroded since 2010. If they had any idea about fairness and efficiency.

Labour are responsible for Thames Water?

Does it make you feel clever using Liebour? It’s embarrassing.

@kirinm,It's shorthand for bunch of complete wasters. Also not as embarrassing as having absolutely no comeback whatsoever to what I just said 😂

Why can't this 34% share of the vote government implement proper controls and ethical levels of tax on utility companies? Why not?

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I am Band F which for me is £3,400 a year. We are not rich. We are not high earners. I do not live in a mansion, it's a 4 bed end terrace house. Honestly, we can't take much more.

This would be ludicrous. We couldn’t afford it. And neither could half my road at least, so that would be 20 houses for sale. Not many buyers with council tax that high. And what do downsize to? No one would be moving from a band E or F. The only low bands I’ve seen round here are mobile homes and over-55s flats.

I suppose the council could take a lien on your property, but that doesn’t help them now.

I think if everybody who was affected by this refused to pay it because it would be such an unfair tax, what could Labour do?

Poll tax riots...

Labour should do well to remember that people eventually snap if pushed too far.

I don't believe you OP. How are you worse off, specifically?

Taxes wiil, I'm afraid, have to rise because we have a sprialling benefits/pensions/NHS bill. If we want to fund those things we have to raise tax to pay for them. These are not issues that started when Labour got in - far from it.

But taxes have not yet actually risen - so how are you worse off?

How? What have they done to make you worse off?

If people are going to come on a thread like this a moan that they feel worse off under Labour they should spedicify how. Taxes haven't risen (yet). Any cuts they've treid to make like winter fuel have been blocked.

So exactly how are you worse off, and how is this Labour's fault?

National insurance has risen, capital gains tax has risen, tax on dividends has risen, council tax has risen. Inflation has risen, in part as a consequence of government policy to increase costs on business, so everyone is worse off as basic food costs more. Then of course their inflationary polices and inept handling of the economy mean that interest rates have remained higher than they would have been, and much higher that in other G7 countries bar Canada. The governments energy policy has increased energy costs, rather than the manifesto pledge to cut them.

All of those have made people worse off - household disposable income fell by nearly 1% in the first quarter of this year alone, and for the bottom 20% it fell by nearly 3%.

And the 20% on school fees. We are struggling with this one too of everything else.

I don't recall I got the WFA last year

I should have said households, not families. My mistake.

I have answered that for you. The facts are that people already have less disposable income following the last budget. This is set to fall further.

Surely it’s obvious, even to Rachel Reeves that you can’t tax your way to growth. Although, as she had her House of Commons credit card suspended for using it for ‘non genuine’ (which I think means false…) expenses I’m not sure that I’d hold out much hope that she actually does understand that…

That's because it wasn't blocked last year as the pp is claiming. The only pensioners who got it were those on pension credit. Many pensioners on just full state pension didn't get it which was why, quite rightly, people were so angry about it.

Labour are coming after the working population because that’s where they think the money is. For people who have worked hard and gained a few material possessions including climbing up the property ladder BANG you’re gonna get hit the hardest 😠

we’re taxed to the hilt already

Total bupkis you can do in the short term. In the long term, it'd be worth it to stop voting for people who hate you. Successful people are hated along with the tryers and the doers. It's just how this country is.

That's because Labour don't like to see anybody doing well. They hate the thought of hard working people being able to keep their money.

@YorkshireGoldDrinker Maggie Thatcher always supported the hard workers..Labour support the shirkers

Figures in press yesterday suggested that 23 per cent of U.K. adults are classified as disabled. That’s a lot of people. Tax rises are inevitable.