Would you be annoyed if school went 100% halal meat?

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The school I work at has a new head teacher who has announced from after half term all meat needs to be halal. She says it's a more ethical way to slaughter animals (she's vegan herself) and no non-halal meat will be on offer. She said anyone who doesn't want it can bring a packed lunch.

I don't know much about halal meat other than it's religious connections. What do you think?

But the thing is absolutely no one would know its halal itll look and taste the same - just means the muslin kids can eat
it too. Other religions can still eat it.

Imagine you were a vegetarian. Would it be OK if I served you a meal made with beef stock, if it looked and tasted the same anyway?

But besides that, the issue is that we don't live in an Islamic country and therefore should not serve, as the main/default food item, Islamic food

I'm an atheist and I don't want prayers said over an animal before it's killed, and I don't want to support religions by paying towards the cost of the iman or rabbi who chants the words over the animals.

Schools buying in halal meat are effectively subsidising the Muslim clerics who overses halal slaughter, which I think is totally inappropriate outside of a Muslim school - I feel the same about kosher.

I also want any meat I eat to be killed with as little pain as possible, and 'most animals are stunned' isn't enough, all should be stunned.

I know that for some veggies and vegans it's incredibly hypocritical to care how an animal is killed, but to me it's like only eating free range meat, I want the suffering to be minimised, and ritual slaughter, with the animal bleeding to death, is not minimising suffering.

Here’s a thought, why don’t you make this argument to the head and make your objections clear?

If they did , they wouldn’t eat meat at all.

No because the 'meat' from school is probably inedible muck anyway so I'd imagine most kids avoid it.

So the Rabbi eats non-kosher food and the Iman eats non-Halal? Are you sure about that?

I know, but that’s still a huge amount of animals that aren’t

If ‘meat is meat’ and it doesn’t matter how the animal is killed why do some religions eat Halal? It very obviously is different.

If it were my school I would be bloody livid and would be creating a whole load of noise

@Spinaltapped, did you miss my post where I told you that most of the prayers are just tapes playing in the background? You think they can have a full time Imam & Rabbi on staff to pray over every slaughter? Have a bit of common sense.

I'm also atheist. Prayers are meaningless. In my belief-system, God doesn't exist, so prayers are just words. They might as well be quoting In The Night Garden, for all the significance it has. I can see that it might be concerning to people who have an alternative faith and for whom prayers hold significance, but atheists, we don't believe. That's kind of the point.

No not eating any "forbidden" food but sharing food that's ok for all.
My point was a response to a comment about a blessing.
If the Christian vicar said "God bless this food" before they all tuck into a slice of sponge cake and a cup of tea then I seriously doubt a Muslim Iman, a Jewish Rabbi and whoever is is charge of the local Wiccan (or whoever is there) will mind.

What does it matter if there is a prayer playing out of the speakers in the background or Britney Spears? They’re killing the animal. It’s not going to make your DC want to read the Quran 🙄

Do you realise most meat in the UK comes from abroad? To denounce it as trash is really odd.

No animal should be killed but forcing Islam or any other religion down my throat- no thanks. Halal should be banned. I’ve no idea why it’s even a thing to be honest.

What about the remaining 20% of animals not stunned then? If the stars are to be believed!

So it’s halal or packed lunch? No veggie option at alll? How odd!

but tbh I think it’s a bit odd for meat eaters to argue about the finer points of animal slaughter like they are warriors for animal rights 🤷‍♀️

Really ? How strange, what about at a ( for example) Sikh or Hindu wedding or if you were invited to Shabat by a Jewish friend ? I am a Christian btw

I’ve been veggie since I was 9, so no I don’t have a lot of knowledge on meat procurement. I do see a lot of labelling around about being British farmed etc. Poorly worded on my part though now I have read it back, I should have said unless it’s trash and left it at that. For some reason I thought meat was much less likely to be stunned in Europe, but another quick google has completely disproved that. I think I have a bias because I seem to see a lot more cattle trucks when driving in Europe but I guess maybe that’s because they’re on their way to the UK!

I will never understand the argument that if you are prepared to kill animals to eat them, it doesn’t matter how. It’s obvious, at least to me, that it’s more humane for an animal to be stunned before it is slaughtered, and the British veterinary Association agree with me. I’m prepared to kill animals to eat them, but I think I have a responsibility to do it in the most humane way possible and that means them being stunned before being slaughtered.

I can’t understand why we allow supermarkets caterers and fast food chains to cut corners and save money by providing unlabelled halal slaughtered meat to those who don’t need it, or providing it as the only option.

Halal slaughter a religious exemption for a small percentage of the population that gets applied to a significant percentage of meat supply in the UK. I don’t see Kosher meat as the same issue because people have to go to specialist suppliers to get it, therefore the exemption isn’t being misused in the same way.

Wouldn’t bother me

wont alter how it tastes

surely only racists would be bothered by this?

This.

I’m not an atheist but no, I don’t like the level of pandering to just 1 religion.

Yes, halal meat (and kosher) is against my religion, and therin lies the problem, trying to only focus on accommodating some groups often means excluding others.

No.

And I I can't be doing with the Muslim Halal bashing, disinformation that's being spread atm.🙄

It's justifying Muslims importance.

How about not.

Don't want to eat food that's not halal. Always vegetarian

Yeah I'm pretty sick of Muslim extremists and this religion taking over the country, but I guess you are happy with it.

Would you like to know what they are really like. Bad luck, you are a woman.