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Would you be annoyed if school went 100% halal meat?

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Wintershealing · 16/10/2025 16:59

The school I work at has a new head teacher who has announced from after half term all meat needs to be halal. She says it's a more ethical way to slaughter animals (she's vegan herself) and no non-halal meat will be on offer. She said anyone who doesn't want it can bring a packed lunch.

I don't know much about halal meat other than it's religious connections. What do you think?

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1dayatatime · 17/10/2025 17:42

BedlingtonFloof · 16/10/2025 17:03

Yes, I’m vegan so I don’t agree with any form of slaughter, but if it has to be done, I want it to be as humane as possible, and I would hate this being the only option available. I think it should be banned tbh.

So it seems that the vegan headmaster is better informed on animal welfare than the British Veterinary Association on animal slaughter. Hmmmm

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 18:02

Ciaran203 · 17/10/2025 17:34

@TooBigForMyBoots but why are they serving it at a catholic school? Will non-halal meat be served at a muslim school?

The difference is those who are Catholic can eat Halal meat. There's no rules in their religion that says you can't.
Those who are Muslim follow dietary rules as part of their religion which means they can only eat halal meat.
To be honest it's probably all one food supplier for all the local schools regardless if they are a faith school or not.
(Only Jewish schools would need to have a different supplier - and there's very few Jewish schools in the UK. I don't believe there's any Sikh schools.)

Newsenmum · 17/10/2025 18:36

Gruffporcupine · 16/10/2025 19:51

Imagine you were a vegetarian. Would it be OK if I served you a meal made with beef stock, if it looked and tasted the same anyway?

But besides that, the issue is that we don't live in an Islamic country and therefore should not serve, as the main/default food item, Islamic food

I am a vegetarian. A more accurate scenario is all children including meat eaters being given vegetarian meals. Is this offensive?
Other religions and no religions are allowed halal meat. Muslims are just allowed halal meat.

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placemats · 17/10/2025 19:30

For your information Dubai is an Islamic country. Richard Tice and his partner Isabel Oakenshott live there. Presumably the meat served in restaurants and bought from grocery stores is halal, should they eat meat.

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 19:34

placemats · 17/10/2025 19:30

For your information Dubai is an Islamic country. Richard Tice and his partner Isabel Oakenshott live there. Presumably the meat served in restaurants and bought from grocery stores is halal, should they eat meat.

I have no idea who those people are 🤷but I know that in some Middle Eastern that may or may not include Dubai large supermarkets have a "non Muslim" section which sells meat such as pork/bacon etc.
You can buy "non Halal" foods in many Islamic countries.

braceforcorrection · 17/10/2025 19:34

placemats · 17/10/2025 19:30

For your information Dubai is an Islamic country. Richard Tice and his partner Isabel Oakenshott live there. Presumably the meat served in restaurants and bought from grocery stores is halal, should they eat meat.

Who are they and why should we care

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/10/2025 19:50

Ciaran203 · 17/10/2025 17:34

@TooBigForMyBoots but why are they serving it at a catholic school? Will non-halal meat be served at a muslim school?

Because it has a diverse pupil intake and all the meat eating pupils can eat halal.🤷‍♀️

placemats · 17/10/2025 20:06

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 19:34

I have no idea who those people are 🤷but I know that in some Middle Eastern that may or may not include Dubai large supermarkets have a "non Muslim" section which sells meat such as pork/bacon etc.
You can buy "non Halal" foods in many Islamic countries.

Tice is a Reform UK MP. Who lives in Dubai with his partner. Richard Tice represents as an MP the people who live i the constuency of Boston and Skegness.

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 20:17

placemats · 17/10/2025 20:06

Tice is a Reform UK MP. Who lives in Dubai with his partner. Richard Tice represents as an MP the people who live i the constuency of Boston and Skegness.

So what was your point 🤷

Spinaltapped · 17/10/2025 20:35

The religious aspect of halal slaughter isn't just a tape playing in the background - the animal must be killed by a Muslim, and the person slaughtering the animal has to invoke Allah while killing the animal.

placemats · 17/10/2025 20:38

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 20:17

So what was your point 🤷

What was your point?

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 20:42

placemats · 17/10/2025 20:38

What was your point?

My point was that even though some Middle Eastern countries are "Islamic countries" non Halal food (and alcohol) is available for those who want it in certain places.
It was counter the whole "well we'd have to follow their rules if we lived in their countries" type comments.
So what was your point?

TY78910 · 17/10/2025 21:21

braceforcorrection · 17/10/2025 15:50

I can't eat it because it's Muslim.

I'm not Muslim.

It's against my beliefs to eat religiously slUghted meat

If that’s your belief then so be it.

I do hope you exercise it before you tuck in to a box of chicken and chips, or go out for a Turkish or even some curries. Unless ignorance is bliss then 🙄

1dayatatime · 17/10/2025 21:23

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/10/2025 19:50

Because it has a diverse pupil intake and all the meat eating pupils can eat halal.🤷‍♀️

Edited

So no consideration then for people that have animal welfare concerns on the manner of slaughter?

The British Vetinary Association is very much against non stun slaughter. FFS we are not living in Victorian times. Why should religious concerns trump animal welfare concerns.

https://www.bva.co.uk/take-action/our-policies/non-stun-slaughter

xogossipgirlxo · 17/10/2025 21:27

I would not be happy if it was in my child’s school. I don’t buy curries or kebabs, and don’t buy sandwiches in my local shell station, because it’s halal food. I don’t want to eat it and I have a right to it without further explanation.

placemats · 17/10/2025 21:34

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 20:42

My point was that even though some Middle Eastern countries are "Islamic countries" non Halal food (and alcohol) is available for those who want it in certain places.
It was counter the whole "well we'd have to follow their rules if we lived in their countries" type comments.
So what was your point?

Dubai is an Islamic country with strict laws is my point.

AlternativeView · 17/10/2025 21:48

Yes i would be very unhappy Google Dr Taj haregy on this ,and enlightened gay Muslim man

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 22:06

placemats · 17/10/2025 21:34

Dubai is an Islamic country with strict laws is my point.

Not much of a point because I still don't know what it is 😂

UNDERCOVERELEPHANTINTHEROOM · 17/10/2025 22:27

NRTFT, but i struggle to understand why so many people are totally opposed to halal methods of slaughtering animals, yet never mention kosher slaughtering methods, or have any issue with non halal slaughter. 🤔
All slaughter is barbaric!!

1dayatatime · 17/10/2025 22:32

UNDERCOVERELEPHANTINTHEROOM · 17/10/2025 22:27

NRTFT, but i struggle to understand why so many people are totally opposed to halal methods of slaughtering animals, yet never mention kosher slaughtering methods, or have any issue with non halal slaughter. 🤔
All slaughter is barbaric!!

All non stun slaughter whether halal or kosher causes suffering and pain to the animal.

That's why the British Veterinary Association are against non stun slaughter.

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/10/2025 22:46

Spinaltapped · 17/10/2025 20:35

The religious aspect of halal slaughter isn't just a tape playing in the background - the animal must be killed by a Muslim, and the person slaughtering the animal has to invoke Allah while killing the animal.

Most of it is. Do you think the chickens at the chicken factory are individually slaughtered by a man saying prayers?

placemats · 17/10/2025 23:21

Needmorelego · 17/10/2025 22:06

Not much of a point because I still don't know what it is 😂

Well if you don't know then we'll agree to differ and move on.

itsnotfairisit · 18/10/2025 07:33

People are prepared to eat so much crap meat and yet complain about halal. Most of our family are (healthily) plant based or near as dammit. Personally that’s the route I’d choose if I was the head teacher.

travellinglighter · 18/10/2025 18:04

Sweetbeansandmochi · 16/10/2025 18:18

I consider this to be forcing a religious affiliation on to people (children) who are not being given a choice and it does bother me.

There is a disrespect or misunderstanding of the sacredness of religious rituals by some on this thread. For some of you a prayer is just air over vocal cords no different to saying ‘Hi’ or ‘owww’ or ‘Hope’ or ‘hate’…yet words have meanings.

A prayer is words infused with sacred meaning for those saying it. For those who subscribe to the religion is a way of connecting to their God.

As someone who doesn’t connect to God through Muslim expression of faith It does bother me that the meat is blessed in a particular way as by eating in it - I would be joining in with their expression of faith.

(Unless I was eating Halal meat at a Muslim friends house - in which case there is a different context and I would be choosing to join in the shared friendship and hospitality - however this situation is not that).

Secular should be the default with religious choices as additional and not the other way around.

So how many children have been converted to Islam by a halal burger?

Sweetbeansandmochi · 18/10/2025 19:15

Disrespect or misunderstanding?
The tone of your post appears mocking.
It is impossible to have a proper conversation with listening and consideration with someone who is mocking. You see at the root of mocking is disdain and superiority. What you need for true discussion is respect. I put forward my view. It’s not fact. It is my opinion.

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