Another example of why Reform are doing so well

[Touchtheskies]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15142311/amp/Taliban-commanders-nephew-asylum-SEVEN-family-members.html

7 people who will just be a strain on the public finances.

Daily Mail.

Likely to be less of a drain on the public purse than the average pensioner. I hope the nephew is able to overcome his past and become an electrician like he wants, sounds like he’s been dealt a really shit hand in life through no fault of his own.

I will soon be the average pensioner after having worked and paid tax for 42 years and not claimed any benefits apart from CB for one child.
How dare you.
This family are yet another example of people taking the piss and people like you are part of the problem.

Well said.

Mumsnet is a despite of ageism. Assuming yonem ever went through the UK education system, my taxes paid for that. Money wasted.

What is wrong with people and do they feel better about themselves to prioritise these people over pensioners. Both my late parents worked for over 40 years before they passed away. Dad paid nearly £400k in care home fees as we had to sell his house to cover the fees.

When will this madness stop?

Most pensioners would have worked and contributed towards their pensions

Despite autocorrected from cess pit. Apologies

I don't want to read a Daily Fail link. The distaste, to put it mildly, for the Taliban is understandable, but what does that have to do with a commander's nephew? The sins and good deeds of my aunts and uncles are not attributable to me.

Now replace the words "average pensioner" with the words "person of colour" and possibly you might see how offensive your post is (but frankly, I doubt it).

Ageism. The only form of discrimination still socially acceptable.

I think the relevance was his uncle was trying to pull him in to the Taliban. Whilst I hsve plenty of sympathy this is exactly what will win reform the election.

So many times a judge mentions the strain on the taxpayers purse just before they hammer it.

I have a nephew, white British and working in the UK, who seriously assaulted a fellow female worker. Does that make me culpable for his actions? He got off with a very light sentence - he's worked and paid into the system and continues to work.

It's shocking to say the average pensioner is a drain on society, what complete BS. The vast, vast majority of current pensioners have worked a long time and happily paid their dues in tax and NI.
I strongly suspect that the current fashion for people wanting to deny entitlement to a SP to past contributors will be regretted when they're older.
If the SP ends up being only for people who haven't contributed or saved, there will (should) be all out mutiny.

Regardless of his familial Taliban connections, the article is about the fact he is here, not working, and the 'news' item is that a court has granted him permission to bring 7 further family members here, presumably also who will need financial support and significant amounts of NHS care.

I must say that the older I get, the more disturbed I am by the casual dismissal of pensioners as undeserving scroungers. They're not all living high on the hog in squillion pound houses and taking the piss out of today's taxpayers.
Thanks for the clarifications about the story.

It's the same posters doing loops on threads across the site with this anti-pensioner venom, please don't think everybody is like that.

Those pesky pensioners the majority of whom have paid tax for 50 years! How dare they get old, ill and potentially need to use the services they have contributed towards. Bloody burdens that they are!

It’s interesting that so many people interpret a factual statement as a personal insult. Most people are not net contributors to the system over their lifetimes and it’s not pensioner bashing to say so. (Though if any of you try claim that your national insurance contributions paid for your pension, I’ll scream, because they didn’t and I’m sick of that myth). I mentioned pensioners because they have finished their contributions, whereas the people mentioned in the article seem to be mostly of working age (the nephew and sisters anyway) and therefore have the potential to work in future.

I don’t have a problem with either pensioners or refugees. I just find it bothersome that people think ‘net recipient’ is a valid excuse not to accept refugees when they are one themselves.

It’s incredibly depressing that people hear about a teenager who was stabbed by his own family members for resisting becoming a terrorist and think ‘nah couldn’t possibly risk spending public money on helping him escape that’. It’s only an accident of birth that it wasn’t me or you.

It is remarkable this is allowed, when you endlessly hear stories of British people unable to bring their spouses here because they don’t earn enough.

I’m not going to reply individually to all the replies as I posted above to address some of it, but I do want to specifically correct something you said here. I did not say drain on society, I said public purse. There is a difference and many pensioners contribute a lot to society in the broader sense. I don’t connect that to being a net contributor or recipient of public funds - the number of net contributors is very small.

I don’t think there will be a mutiny by the way. I don’t think anyone under 40 is expecting a state pension, certainly not one that isn’t means tested.

The average pensioner will have probably paid in for years. 🙄

Yes, indeed. It’s just that the majority of people end up taking out more than they individually paid in.

I don't think the phrasing drain on public purse v drain on society makes a jot of difference.
Yes, over the course of a life, people pay in at some point and take out at others. That's life.

What are you proposing - that those who pay in all their working lives are then not entitled to receive in later life? The only people entitled to receive a SP would be those who did NOT pay in? Or those who paid just a small amount in but didn't save too?