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Trump and paracetamol. Why?

133 replies

Poiny · 23/09/2025 11:58

I mean does he believe this nonsense? Does he gain from it somehow? Does he think it increases his popularity? Is it all for attention?

Why has he put this nonsense out? What's in it for him?

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jannier · 23/09/2025 13:10

Damnd · 23/09/2025 11:59

Why are you so sure it's nonsense?

Donald don't you have a country to ruin?

R0ckandHardPlace · 23/09/2025 13:13

There will be a financial reason. He’ll have a vested interest in wanting the share price of Tylenol to tumble. It’s Disaster Capitalism at work, the same way Boris and Farage make their money.

PermanentTemporary · 23/09/2025 13:26

Because old guys who like to fuck young women and regularly change wives for someone ten years younger aren’t interested in hearing facts that ageing sperm and their genes are genuine factors increasing the risk that they might have a child of the type they bullied at school.

GermanShepherd74 · 23/09/2025 13:27

gamerchick · 23/09/2025 12:15

Claming women are to blame as well as paracetamol is pretty much what you expect from that lot.

There are some dark times ahead. Now there is blame. Mothers are going to get more stick for damaging their kids. Litigation is going to go through the roof against pharmaceutical companies.

Why I don't know.

Edited

Agreed.

Pain relief and medical care offer freedom to people - in this case women during pregnancy and childbirth.

By declaring it the enemy they keep women suffering = more likely to need help = less independent.

Women apparently have too much freedom these days, so this is what they’ve cooked up to get mothers stressing.

Doyouship · 23/09/2025 14:43

Perplexed20 · 23/09/2025 12:11

Oh ffs.

How’s your son?? Lots asking on your thread @Perplexed20

SolarVie · 23/09/2025 14:46

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/09/2025 12:26

I saw something about the relgious right wanting to reduce the age of consent or weaken it further (child marriage is allowed in some US states already) - and it's older men wanting very young girls apparently - so yea that too.

Yes, Trad Wife is a movement over there.

MadisonMarieParksValetta · 23/09/2025 14:48

Hes a fanny.

elizabethdraper · 23/09/2025 14:49

It is leading the way to removing pain relief for labour

1dayatatime · 23/09/2025 14:53

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02876-1

Firstly it's a specific brand of paracetamol and secondly the link with autism whilst true is very very small.

Quite frankly there are a lot more important things to avoid taking during pregnancy.

H34th · 23/09/2025 15:21

Without Twitter, this person likely wouldn't have gained an audience, power, or won two elections. The world has changed dramatically, with ideas that once seemed absurd now being presented as facts by presidents. Essentially, the rise of social media over traditional media has eliminated the challenge to falsehoods. We are heading into a very uncertain future.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/09/2025 15:25

1dayatatime · 23/09/2025 14:53

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02876-1

Firstly it's a specific brand of paracetamol and secondly the link with autism whilst true is very very small.

Quite frankly there are a lot more important things to avoid taking during pregnancy.

The better controlled studies are less likely to find even a small risk,” says Helen Tager-Flusberg, a psychologist who studies autism at Boston University, Massachusetts, “And even then, what we’re talking about is a minor association. … We do not think that taking acetaminophen is in any way contributing to actually causing autism.”

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The study led by Ahlqvist harnessed data on nearly 2.5 million children born in Sweden between 1995 and 2019 and
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The researchers found no association between acetaminophen and autism using this method — which supports the idea that links found in other studies were really explained by confounding factors.
Another large, high-quality study2 from Japan including over 200,000 children — also using sibling comparisons and published this year — found no link between acetaminophen use in pregnancy and autism.

There is no robust evidence or convincing studies to suggest there is any causal relationship and any conclusions being drawn to the contrary are often motivated, under-evidenced, and unsupported by the most robust methods,” Monique Botha, associate professor in social and developmental psychology at Durham University, UK, said in comments to the Science Media Centre, a UK press office.

That article really isn't saying there a slight risk - it's saying there is NO RISK - so why are you saying there is a slight risk with one type - what have I missed?

If I thought there was a "slight risk" to my child I'd take the pain over that - many mother's would - as well as avoiding all the other stuff in pg we get told (often with surpsingly little evidence).

1dayatatime · 23/09/2025 15:50

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/09/2025 15:25

The better controlled studies are less likely to find even a small risk,” says Helen Tager-Flusberg, a psychologist who studies autism at Boston University, Massachusetts, “And even then, what we’re talking about is a minor association. … We do not think that taking acetaminophen is in any way contributing to actually causing autism.”

....
The study led by Ahlqvist harnessed data on nearly 2.5 million children born in Sweden between 1995 and 2019 and
...
The researchers found no association between acetaminophen and autism using this method — which supports the idea that links found in other studies were really explained by confounding factors.
Another large, high-quality study2 from Japan including over 200,000 children — also using sibling comparisons and published this year — found no link between acetaminophen use in pregnancy and autism.

There is no robust evidence or convincing studies to suggest there is any causal relationship and any conclusions being drawn to the contrary are often motivated, under-evidenced, and unsupported by the most robust methods,” Monique Botha, associate professor in social and developmental psychology at Durham University, UK, said in comments to the Science Media Centre, a UK press office.

That article really isn't saying there a slight risk - it's saying there is NO RISK - so why are you saying there is a slight risk with one type - what have I missed?

If I thought there was a "slight risk" to my child I'd take the pain over that - many mother's would - as well as avoiding all the other stuff in pg we get told (often with surpsingly little evidence).

Here's the findings of the Swedish study:

"Question Does acetaminophen use during pregnancy increase children’s risk of neurodevelopmental disorders?

Findings In this population-based study, models without sibling controls identified marginally increased risks of autism and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) associated with acetaminophen use during pregnancy. However, analyses of matched full sibling pairs found no evidence of increased risk of autism (hazard ratio, 0.98), ADHD (hazard ratio, 0.98), or intellectual disability (hazard ratio, 1.01) associated with acetaminophen use."

SumUp · 23/09/2025 15:52

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/09/2025 12:02

This from a man who suggested we drink bleach to cure covid.

This!

Shedmistress · 23/09/2025 15:57

H34th · 23/09/2025 15:21

Without Twitter, this person likely wouldn't have gained an audience, power, or won two elections. The world has changed dramatically, with ideas that once seemed absurd now being presented as facts by presidents. Essentially, the rise of social media over traditional media has eliminated the challenge to falsehoods. We are heading into a very uncertain future.

WithoutTwitter and Facebook and their tricks and burying the hunter biden laptop story and deliberately pumping propaganda through their algorithms, he may well have won the election that Biden won. This isn't the stellar argument you think it is.

Anyway, does it matter who is saying it? People really need to look at the evidence and not be swayed by the person saying it.

menopausalfart · 23/09/2025 16:05

His decisions are always led by money. So you have to follow that trail.

ChubbyPuffling · 23/09/2025 16:25

If they are saying that a pregnant woman taking paracetamol is actively harming her foetus, where does that put her in the anti-abortion States.
What if her friend/partner/husband buys her paracetamol knowing that she is pregnant. What if a doctor or pharmacist or grocery store sells it to a woman they know to be pregnant.
I'm sure there is more to come.

Deerfolk · 23/09/2025 16:26

Maybe it plays into the Original Sin belief. And that women are suppose to suffer the pains of pregnancy as punishment for sex.

Boomer55 · 23/09/2025 16:32

Poiny · 23/09/2025 11:58

I mean does he believe this nonsense? Does he gain from it somehow? Does he think it increases his popularity? Is it all for attention?

Why has he put this nonsense out? What's in it for him?

He was the idiot that suggested taking bleach internally would cure Covid.

Just best ignored.🙄

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2025 16:42

Snorlaxo · 23/09/2025 13:09

Wouldn’t be difficult to find women who took paracetamol in pregnancy and didn’t have a child with autism.

Why paracetamol and not another painkiller like ibuprofen? It’s typical Trump that the dad taking paracetamol didn’t change his sperm or something.

Why not ibuprofen is because that, and similar painkillers do carry risks in pregnancy and aren’t recommended!

Trump’s ignorant, antiscientific pronouncements are unfortunately likely to result in some women choosing to use a less safe painkiller than paracetamol.

H34th · 23/09/2025 17:10

Shedmistress · 23/09/2025 15:57

WithoutTwitter and Facebook and their tricks and burying the hunter biden laptop story and deliberately pumping propaganda through their algorithms, he may well have won the election that Biden won. This isn't the stellar argument you think it is.

Anyway, does it matter who is saying it? People really need to look at the evidence and not be swayed by the person saying it.

When we first heard of Trump during the buildup to the ‘16 election, we all laughed and found him preposterous. But the guy was an expert twitterer and built himself a great audience, something he couldn’t have achieved through traditional media. It’s extremely powerful, and that’s why Elon bought it, right?

It’s the world we live in now. The likes of Tate and Robinson can say all sorts of false statements, and you can argue against them all you want-they’ve got influence and are master gaslighters.

Have you noticed that in the last decade or so? Does it not worry you?

nonumbersinthisname · 23/09/2025 17:12

Fun fact. The full official international chemical name of paracetamol is N-(4-hydroxyphenyl) acetamide

However, chemical naming conventions come and go like fashions. Plus there are transatlantic differences (eg sulphur vs sulfur or aluminium vs aluminum). Which explains why the same drug is known by two different names. In the 1950s, in the UK and lots of the rest of the world, the chemical name was para-acetyl-aminophenol. In the USA it was called N-acetayl-para-aminophenol.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2025 17:22

nonumbersinthisname · 23/09/2025 17:12

Fun fact. The full official international chemical name of paracetamol is N-(4-hydroxyphenyl) acetamide

However, chemical naming conventions come and go like fashions. Plus there are transatlantic differences (eg sulphur vs sulfur or aluminium vs aluminum). Which explains why the same drug is known by two different names. In the 1950s, in the UK and lots of the rest of the world, the chemical name was para-acetyl-aminophenol. In the USA it was called N-acetayl-para-aminophenol.

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There’s a lot more standardisation now. Chemists should follow IUPAC nomenclature - e.g. sulfur and aluminium are definitively correct now internationally.

Zonder · 23/09/2025 17:29

Shedmistress · 23/09/2025 12:10

Who sponsored this 'good quality peer review research'?

Lets not forget that the 'peer review research' arena is completely corrupted and has been for at least a decade.

Haha! Tell me you don't understand without telling me you don't understand.

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