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Trump and paracetamol. Why?

133 replies

Poiny · 23/09/2025 11:58

I mean does he believe this nonsense? Does he gain from it somehow? Does he think it increases his popularity? Is it all for attention?

Why has he put this nonsense out? What's in it for him?

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Osmosisfreight · 23/09/2025 12:25

He’s an absolute crack pot, I feel for the autistic community in the USA, many families must be worried about whats going to happen, will diagnoses or specialised care be affected?
As far as I am aware Trump and the other dingbat RFK have put forward no credible evidence.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/09/2025 12:26

SolarVie · 23/09/2025 12:19

Also, pro old men having kids with younger women = bleugh

I saw something about the relgious right wanting to reduce the age of consent or weaken it further (child marriage is allowed in some US states already) - and it's older men wanting very young girls apparently - so yea that too.

PatheticDistraction · 23/09/2025 12:27

This is one theory....

Trump and paracetamol. Why?
eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 23/09/2025 12:27

I think the dude is pure evil and not crazy at all. He knows what he's doing... distraction techniques, getting us all to be mad at each other all the time, policing women's bodies, while he makes dodgy deals and makes more money.
Evil. Not stupid.

Meadowfinch · 23/09/2025 12:28

I imagine it's his way of appealing to the conspiracy theory oddballs.

Either that or he really is that ignorant.

Poiny · 23/09/2025 12:29

PatheticDistraction · 23/09/2025 12:27

This is one theory....

Hmm. That was my gut feeling....that there's money to be made somewhere.

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indoorplantqueen · 23/09/2025 12:30

He is a baboon! The best study was the Swedish one where there were 2.5 million babies/ children. Including data from siblings. No causal link found.

the Boston study was small (996 parent child pairs) which did find a higher rate of incidences of ASD/ adhd but the study was small, and confounding information not fully accounted for (parental age, underlying maternal illness).

he is just anti women. Now he wants pregnant women to suffer in pregnancy.
Why does be not cite the consistent and well established link between advanced paternal age (poor sperm) and autism?

Handmethegunandaskmeagain · 23/09/2025 12:30

Shedmistress · 23/09/2025 12:10

Who sponsored this 'good quality peer review research'?

Lets not forget that the 'peer review research' arena is completely corrupted and has been for at least a decade.

Scientist here that does peer reviewed research. All of our funding comes either from the NHS, charitable foundations or the NIH. I couldn’t name a researcher I know who has questionable funding sources. We are all independent and in this country a research groups reputation hinges on the quality of their work and publications.

I also review other people’s research before it gets published, and if I for one minute think it’s questionable or they have a conflict of interests like the one Wakefield had, I wouldn’t put my name to it as a reviewer and neither would a reputable journal.

A small amount of shady research does get put out online in shady publications, but most scientists and definitely bodies like the MHRA can spot a poor quality study a mile off and discount it.

Saying the whole area is corrupt is categorically not true.

siliconcover · 23/09/2025 12:31

ChocHotolate · 23/09/2025 12:02

Because it places the blame on the mother.
Evangelical Christianity and Project 2025 hate women and want their rights removed.
They have removed reproductive freedoms, want to remove their rights to vote and now want to remove their right to medical autonomy during pregnancy including basic pain relief.

100 %. DT wants women to 'tough it out'. Painkillers only with Dr approval. ASD is Women's fault for being weak. Because it couldn’t be genetic & involved men, could it?

indoorplantqueen · 23/09/2025 12:36

I heard on the radio earlier that the active ingredient (acetaminophen) that’s in tylenol is largely produced by china and India (smaller). He probably wants to stop buying from china and make the ingredient themselves (which will probably be the same) then market it as a something different!

MelodyMaine · 23/09/2025 12:38

Damnd · 23/09/2025 11:59

Why are you so sure it's nonsense?

I’m sure it’s nonsense because autism was first mentioned in 1912, Leo Kanner named it as a distinct childhood developmental pattern in 1943, generic paracetamol was introduced to the USA on prescription in 1950 and marketed as Tylenol in 1955. I also have a postgraduate degree in autism and know that genetics is the largest contributory factor.

MelodyMaine · 23/09/2025 12:39

Teachingagain · 23/09/2025 12:04

Good quality peer reviewed research with says there is no link and no good quality peer reviewed research wihich says there is a link.

The British Medical Association and American Medical Association have also stated there is no link.

K0OLA1D · 23/09/2025 12:41

Damnd · 23/09/2025 11:59

Why are you so sure it's nonsense?

Mate come on... remember, smart people don't like him.. there's a reason

Anonymousemouses · 23/09/2025 12:41

Damnd · 23/09/2025 11:59

Why are you so sure it's nonsense?

Well...my DS is autistic and I had no paracetamol when pregnant.

With DD I had paracetamol when I was pregnant due to migraines, which I had a lot. She is not autistic.

So two children, one autistic - no paracetamol, one NT and paracetamol - surely this must prove it? (This is a joke btw).

Women have had paracetamol for decades, lots and lots of decades. It has been so widely used, for so long, that it is the only painkiller recommended for pregnancy due to it's safety profile (obviously no new drug can ever be recommended in pregnancy as it is unethical to test, paracetamol was used before ethical concerns).

Sure, autism was probably less diagnosed, but I think that cases have risen, but it is not paracetamol. It's as likely to be the rise in processed food, microplastics in food, the increased antibiotic and hormone use in animals that we eat/drink from.

Of course it may be the increase of screens having an effect on forming brains.

A lot of it is genetic.

It could be a correlation of all those things, or none.

It's certainly far more nuanced than PARACETAMOL CAUSES AUTISM, which is a catchy headline, but almost certainly bollocks!

Timelineuk · 23/09/2025 12:41

Damnd · 23/09/2025 11:59

Why are you so sure it's nonsense?

Because my kids are autistic and I’ve never taken paracetamol during pregnancy and both diagnosed ASD and adhd, and so creative and different they are not damaged lol, and there were obvious signs by 12 months.and are lol also because he is a dirty convicted rapist and hangs out with high profile groomers. He’s a sham and why are you sure he’s telling the truth? They are feeding off emotional drama now.

potato08 · 23/09/2025 12:43

It's the US.
Paracetamol is cheap and readily available.
How do you stop people using such a medication and, instead, use a "new" "safer" and, of course, much more $$$$$ medication?
Call me a cynic....

JasmineTea11 · 23/09/2025 12:55

Shedmistress · 23/09/2025 12:10

Who sponsored this 'good quality peer review research'?

Lets not forget that the 'peer review research' arena is completely corrupted and has been for at least a decade.

It's 'sponsored' by taxpayers via Universities and research institutions.
The issue around research replication, impact of journals etc, is real, but relates more to social sciences than biomedical research which is what's relevant here.
I don't want to live in a world without scientific rationality.

cheeseforever · 23/09/2025 12:58

Poiny · 23/09/2025 12:12

Ah, I'd somehow missed the bit about him curing Autism by the end of the month.

I know there's no point trying to understand him, but I wondered why he'd want to be attached to something so ridiculous.

Out of interest, if everyone stops taking paracetamol who gains? What's the most likely substitute?

Maybe if you are experiencing a lot of pain in pregnancy you will need to give up work. Women in the US have fewer employment protections there than here. They might be more likely to have to depend on their husband then and not work once the child arrives?
RFK benefits financially from his other antivax stuff (senator Warren discussed it at his confirmation hearings).
There’s also this cure for autism that they are now seeking to promote which appears to be some kind of folic acid and is a generic version, they will make it available to Medicare/medicaid patients but I don’t suppose there is much to stop them licensing a version of it themselves and only letting the Medicare/medicaid patients get that version?

spicetails · 23/09/2025 13:02

MelodyMaine · 23/09/2025 12:38

I’m sure it’s nonsense because autism was first mentioned in 1912, Leo Kanner named it as a distinct childhood developmental pattern in 1943, generic paracetamol was introduced to the USA on prescription in 1950 and marketed as Tylenol in 1955. I also have a postgraduate degree in autism and know that genetics is the largest contributory factor.

Whoch explains why I have two autistic children, ivd had it suggested to me that I am, and when I look at various family members in my maternal side I wonder if there may be something there too.

And I never too paracetamol whilst pregnant - theres that, too

Imaginariums · 23/09/2025 13:03

As someone with no scientific background if I had to wager what’s behind cancer, autism and all these relatively newish problems it’s probably all the newish stuff like nuclear waste / radiation, microplastics, pollution from cars and factories. It’s easier to blame a specific drug when we all know it’s probably a combination of all of these things. The trouble is we all need these things to maintain our current lifestyle so there’s no appetite to fix this

Hoppinggreen · 23/09/2025 13:04

Its another way to blame, shame and oppress women
Allegedly Trump has a personal reason to try and blame women taking painkillers in pregnancy causing Autism rather than there being a genetic link
I am sure there will be a financial advantage in it for Trump or one of his cronies because the MAGA lot don't do anything unless they stand to profit from it

frozendaisy · 23/09/2025 13:04

ChocHotolate · 23/09/2025 12:02

Because it places the blame on the mother.
Evangelical Christianity and Project 2025 hate women and want their rights removed.
They have removed reproductive freedoms, want to remove their rights to vote and now want to remove their right to medical autonomy during pregnancy including basic pain relief.

And for the prospect of men to be absolved of all blame and responsibility

Imaginariums · 23/09/2025 13:04

I should add , this is what’s cause the increase we have seen in recent decades

GnomeDePlume · 23/09/2025 13:08

@CatHairEveryWhereNow have you no shame? Coming on here quoting peer reviewed studies! 😉

I think the 'why' is a mix of misogyny (this way the father isnt at 'fault') and anti inexpensive pharma (buy whatever is peddled expensively as 'safe').

Snorlaxo · 23/09/2025 13:09

Damnd · 23/09/2025 11:59

Why are you so sure it's nonsense?

Wouldn’t be difficult to find women who took paracetamol in pregnancy and didn’t have a child with autism.

Why paracetamol and not another painkiller like ibuprofen? It’s typical Trump that the dad taking paracetamol didn’t change his sperm or something.