Tommy Robinson deported for being a threat to national security

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Oh this cheered me right up this morning.

Tommy Grifter Robinson decided he needed a holiday (wonder where he gets the money from) and flew to Colombia where he wasn't allowed in, then flew to Panama where he wasn't allowed in and was put on a flight for deportation back to the UK.

I'm not sure why Tommy Robinson wouldn't be happy that other countries don't want to let in dangerous rabble-rousers with a history of violence.

(sad video here about how much he was looking forward to his holiday https://x.com/gadget440/status/1969217159470428210?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g )

Yes, so you've said. That wasn't what I asked you though. You've just repeated yourself, but not answered the specific things I've asked you. What is your definition of deeply left and woke, and what examples do you have of these opinions on MN?

I don't believe that this is genuine but positioning himself as part of a Christian country against the 'invading' Muslims which goes alongside other Crusade imagery. There were people flying the flag of the Knights Templar at his rally.

And yet this resurgence of faith isn’t translating into bums on pews on a Sunday morning. How odd, almost as if they just like the imagery of ‘Onward Christian Soldiers’ without actually understanding the words.

It's very USA, project 2025. Trump found faith. As did Russell Brand.

Oddly enough, young men are increasingly going to church. I doubt there is a cross over with SYL supporters though. Or rather I hope not.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/21/gen-z-men-church-community-activism-online-radicalisation

I don't know, men like TR and the Tates are very keen to keep women in their place

True.

But not so keen to keep up a quiet, sustained charitable effort asking no recognition or reward. It’s really important that ordinary Catholics and Anglicans aren’t dragged into this cesspit of regression by loudmouths who wouldn’t recognise the teachings of Jesus if someone smacked them in the face with a Bible.

Funnily enough just saw this linked to on Twitter

https://humanists.uk/2025/09/17/rising-christian-nationalism-a-threat-to-us-all/

What do you think he loves about it in particular? He always seems to be trying to change things about it.

And he doesn’t even live here! Can’t love it that much.

This is such a powerful post! Something I've noticed too and mentioned a few times on mn over the years. Yet I've never been able to put it this way or seen anyone else do so. The personal aspect of the post, which I couldn't bring to the table, makes it even more profound!

On the other hand (and this isn't to take anything away from your impactful post, it's just reminded me of a related issue) I've also seen some POC who erroneously interchange WC with POC as if there aren't POC in other social classes. This too is a misnomer.

I have a problem with people making any group (whether class, race, sex, etc) appear homogenous or monolithic, and that has been one of my gripes on this thread, causing some pile-on attacks but nevertheless...

Back to the point, I think people should take note when making arguments about social class and racism. They're different lanes, even if connected in the case of POC.

Oh definitely! Didn't know he did this but it doesn't take much thought to know it's all performative for the reason you've mentioned.

I particularly liked a poster's remark about "Onward Christian soldiers". Made me laugh even though it's a serious topic.

loudmouths who wouldn’t recognise the teachings of Jesus if someone smacked them in the face with a Bible.
I have a 12 translation version I can lend you if you like. It's very large and heavy - and hard-backed.

I am honestly not exceptionally worried about the majority of "ordinary" people of faith or without faith being dragged into all this. And just to be clear whilst the humanists fairly raise concerns, they might want to look to their own ranks too because I know a fair few humanists and some of them, if they weren't actually at the rally there thinking much the same things as the people who were. It would be a huge mistake not to recognise the threat of the far right, populism and their ilk.But I am more concerned about the silent majority. Large though the London demonstration was, it was a tiny proportion of the population - about 1.35% of the population of London or 0.18% of the UK population. The majority of people, even those who might have racist inclinations, or have some sympathy with some of the rhetoric around immigration, are still horrified by these scenes and in no way will ever support the extreme hatred and vitriol of the far right.

What we now lack in the country is a clear and consistent leadership that can represent a rational view. In the past coalitions formed from strong class leadership in politics and the unions provided a leadership that could hold the nation in balance. It wasn't always an easy job, and it didn't always succeed. But now there is a vacuum. Most unions are, at best, silent. Labour has bought into the far right agenda and is falling over itself to prove it can be as bad ass as them.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."

The majority of the people are silent, the leadership is silent, and evil is entering by the front door as a result.

In the past coalitions formed from strong class leadership in politics and the unions provided a leadership that could hold the nation in balance.

Can you give an example of whay you mean with this?

Rock Against Racism and the Anti-Nazi League - whilst coming from specific sources, they enjoyed widespread support and engagement from unions and left and centre political parties. It was about uniting against the right, not competing against it.

The thing is the use of "woke" as a pejorative can undermine an otherwise logical point of view. I generally agree with you but I fail to see how being "woke" is a bad thing. Becoming aware of and calling out injustice (towards any demographic) is a "woke" thing to do.

It really isn't necessary to point it out negatively.

Fair enough - I do see your point and understand what you are saying.
However, and no bad intentions meant , but some leftwing opinions and thoughts can be viewed as “ woke” .

For example , through specific posts on SM and on other platforms - not just on this site - may be interpreted and seen this way.

People’s opinion are all subjective and differ - which we’re all entitled to have 🤷‍♀️

But it comes down to what you consider 'woke' and you haven't explained that here.

There's a tendency on the right to label 'everything I don't perceive as being part of my experience or I don't agree with' as woke.

Like climate change policies or avocados.

I don’t need to. I don’t need to explain my thoughts on here - only to be annihilated because you disagree. Sorry - but no.

That is an extreme reaction to a simple question.

I thought ‘woke’ was a good thing. Doesn’t it mean being aware, enlightened and progressive? Surely, the opposite would be asleep, unaware and backward?

They don’t want people to be ‘aware, enlightened and progressive’ so are trying to make it an insult.

Tom Robinson is my absolute favourite person. He is a brilliant and genuinely lovely man and it pisses me off so much that this midget red faced dickhead has got his name!

In all fairness its quite difficult to see someones point of view if you have no idea what they mean by certain words

but obviously if you shouldn’t do anything that makes you uncomfortable